Addicted to Humanity?

[Shin'Ar]

I am also addicted to my wife. What kind of spin can be put on that?

Ask me that when she moves on.

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Addicted to...posting on various internet discussion forums, say? As you sit in front of a piece of equipment whose very existence is at the forefront of modern technology and production..and consumption.

People in glass houses and all...just saying.

Look, this is life in these times. The trappings of modern civilization are used by everyone. Damn few people stop to think about the processes behind the things they take for granted.

How about electrical power anyone? Nearly 60% of which, in the states anyway, is provided by those evil ol' oil companies in the form of natural gas. Or those evil coal companies. Wind power?...well perhaps, but it takes power and technology to manufacture those blades and turbines, not mention the miles and miles of insulated wire.

Its all interconnected. Unless you're living in a cave...(and if thats true, you wouldn't even be part of this conversation)...all of us in this forum are willing participants in the "addictions" (as defined originally) of the modern age.

Richard

yes, thank you for making my point.

Where do these people come from that have to respond as though they are being attacked when all that we are doing is discussing a controversial topic? If you do not like to have your own beliefs questioned or debated than I suggest you do not take part in these discussions and you will not have to feel offended.

No offense or judgement is being passed here in any way. I am considering the same questions that many others will also ask. your thoughts are important as in gathering such various speculation on these matters assists in coming to more clearly understood aspects.

Asa for suggesting that I am living in a glass house I would kindly ask you to point out to me where I have said anywhere in this thread or this forum that I am not also living in and affected by this same cycle of darkness as everyone else. the fact that I choose to point out what the ancients have said about the matter does not in any way suggest that I am better than anyone else or that I think myself beyond or somehow removed from the cycle of darkness.

I am simply discussing what many teachings around the world suggest regarding the evolution of the consciousness.

I cannot imagine that people who react in this way are ignorant of this, so I conclude that it deliberate mockery.

But I refrain from actually main accusations toward anyone in particular and will let those of such intention fall into that category by their own responses.

Now if we can get back to a civil intelli9gent conversation let's discuss this with a little more understanding and a lot less defensive posturing. There is really no need for it because no one is attacking you. If you doubt your own understandings then maybe you should reconsider what you have adopted. But that doubt and insecurity should not bring you to a defensive role, for you would simply be defending that which you already are insecure about.

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But even you have acknowledged in your statement the need to move one.

Not really.. I never said we need to move on. We need to realize we're not our circumstances or the balances we are in.. Change is inevitable.

YES CHANGE IS HAPPENING AND WE WILL MOVE ON AS THAT CHANGE TAKES PLACE. yOU SAID YOU WILL MISS THE EARTH ACKNOWLEDGING THE MOVING ON FROM IT.

I would not try to tell the family of an addict that it is nothing more than an adjustment that they should appreciate.

I would not equate sports, girlfriends food and life to an addiction to heroin or alcohol. In fact these what you call "addictions" make us stronger. They define us in that they allow us to find our balance with the world.

YES, i CAN SEE HOW A SICK HEROIN ADDICT HAVING LOST EVERYTHING IN LIFE TO HIS ILLNESS IS LIVING A MUCH MORE BALANCED LIFE?????

I know of the spiritual dogma that some people carry that all these things should be rejected and transcended. The buddha explained that if the string is bound too tight then the snare will break and produce no sound. If the string is bound too loose it will produce no sound. Only when the string is tied just right will she produce a beautiful melody.

The middle path is not about rejection or extremism. It is about embracing and surrendering to the gifts of this world. While accepting that we ourselves are not of it. Flexible enough not to break in the wind but strong enough to retain our own qualities.

NOONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT REJECTION. I SAID THAT ONCE WE EXPERIENCE THIS DENSITY AND EVOLVE THROUGH THE LESSONS LEARNED HERE IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SCHOOL OF DESIGN. THAT IS NOT REJECTION OF MOTHER EARTH, THAT IS ACKNOWLEDGING HER ROLE IN THE GRAND DESIGN OF THIS UNIVERSE.

From the top of my head I could quote you half a dozen verses and parables from varying religions and spiritual paths that explain the exact same principle.

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I am very curious as to why so many are taking what I say as a suggestion that this world has nothing to offer, or that we should consider it something to reject and hate.

The fact that I suggest that our addictions to this world causes many to deliberately choose to separate themselves from the process of evolution and cease the development of their consciousness into Higher Being, does not in any way suggest that the things which were offered to us in this world have not been a wondrous learning experience to be appreciated and enjoyed.

But our Grand design is far more than as humans. You yourselves will attest to being the Creator. And yet as the Creator of an entire universe you are offended when one points out that the Earth is but one small step in the journey into Mystery, and one small footprint on the available universe.