07-03-2012, 09:23 AM
(07-02-2012, 09:56 PM)plenum Wrote: this one here about Invocations and Evocations is still confusing to me.
Consider the reason why the Creator is called the "Word" (or Logos in Greek and Verbum in Latin). The Creator is vibration (verbum, vibration), all consiousness is vibration; therefore consciousness vibrates (it "speaks" or "sings"—or more esoterically: it moves/vibrates/rotates/distorts/articulates/organizes/differentiates/creates). The closes analogy to vibration here would be that which is known as sound (perhaps The Logos/Word should instead be called The Sound—as it is easier to see the Creator as sound rather than as a "word"). After all, what is a word if not a sound? What is music? Again, what is vibration?
The simplest example of vibration is vocalization (as in singing, the using of the voice; and to a lesser degree, speaking). We can correlate this to the Creator being the "Breath" of Life; in other words: that which flows through and from the mouth, both inwards and outwards, vibrating, pulsating, like the beat of a heart (exhalation/inhalation, expansion/contraction—the very rhythms of Creation). Your vocal cords are a sonorous instrument, and your whole body is a tabernacle that resonates your vibrations/sounds. When you speak and utter words, are you not emitting sounds?
So it is with invocation and evocation, both words related to vocalization: from Latin vocare, "to call," from vox, "voice." Invocation is the "calling in(wards) and evocation is the "calling out(wards)." But these two terms are somewhat blurred and interchangeable, so I wouldn't worry too much about making a distinction between one and the other. The point is: you can literally vibrate (by attunement) your Higher Self into and through you to consciously affect/alter your "reality," shall we say (this is a quintessential tenet of magic(k)al work).
In the more esoteric sense the voice is power, force (it commands, it directs, it drives, it charges); and is thus related to the will(power), and the Logos.
As a side note: this is also related to higher density entities "hearing the call" from the people on Earth. They don't hear a "call" in words, per se, they don't listen to the word-content of prayers; what they do is feel the vibrations of the "call" the same way one would hear the tunes of a musical instrument playing out. Thus when they hear the laments and grievings from an elegy or requiem, they answer accordingly by singing/resonating back their more euphoric and elated melodies to alleviate the sorrows.
Consider further: all sound emanates from silence; the breath flows from the mouth; and light emerges from obscurity. And who/what is the latter in every case, if not the Void?
(07-03-2012, 08:38 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Siren what do you mean when you say the higher self is analogous with Intelligent Energy and the Logos?
The Logos is intelligent energy. It is that Focus/Thought/Love that, drawing from free-will/tapping into infinite potential, concentrates into arranging, organizing, constructing, articulating, energizing, manifesting the Creation (of light, in its various vibratory degrees or densities of manifestation). Everything in the Creation is a creature of the Creator; thus you are as much the Logos/Creator as is the cockroach in your kitchen. Hence, you are already the Creator as is everything/everyone else.
Now, because of the function of the Logos in articulating and organizing the illusory material that is light, the density most aligned and reflective of that function, is the 6th density, wherein the "form-makers" reside. This is, microcosmically, analogous to the Logos.
Quote:In my thinking, it sounds like you are suggesting that the higher self is invoked by one's faith or belief that it exists in their future.
At Patrick accurately stated, it simultaneously exists in the future (from linear point of view perception) and in the ever-present.
Quote:And that correlates with the energies involved in creating what we choose to believe will exist.
The Logos chose (out of free-will) to believe/imagine/dream the Creation to exist. Thus there was light.
(07-03-2012, 08:54 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Ra is not always passing on accurate information. This is their opinion on a matter no different than you or I having an opinion on a matter. And in this case Ra would not be accurate in its speculation about the Higher Self.
Although it is true that they are sharing their own "slant" on the truth. The truth remains ever the same. I still hold, as always, that the reason for miscommunication and misinterpretation is largely a semantic one.
You've called the Creator the Goddess. My preferences and biases would argue that a better term for the Creator would be something other than God or Goddess (since either represents a polarity, and the Creator is neither male nor female—or both; One). Yet, I respect your own choice of words, and I know that, in essence, we're speaking the same truth.
When reading/hearing matters of spirituality, cosmology or theosophy, one must learn to read between the lines, see through the surrounding verbiage that superflously adorns the message, in order to grasp the heart of of it, shall we say; instead of entangling oneself in questions of semantic that mislead elsewhere.
I perceived the heart/core of Ra's message, and I am congruent with it; it correlated and resonates with my intuition and inner vibrations. That is all I can tell you—my testimony.