The suspended state.

[anagogy]

I am currently contemplating what Ra called the suspended state. What most of us call being unconscious. Is it what happens when we sleep ?

Are we truly unconscious? Or does the self retracts behind the veil and is still conscious without us having access to these memories when the self comes back on this side of the veil?

I would say there are aspects of both occurring, though, as Siren noted there is no such thing as actual unconsciousness. There is a sort of "unconsciousness" that occurs, but unconsciousness of what, is the question we should be asking ourselves.

Consciousness is conscious, period. The only things that change are the contents of consciousness. The unconscious mind is not unconscious, for example, it simply has different contents than the so called conscious mind. They are all streams of consciousness extending from the same fundamental source.

As you probably already know, there are multiple levels to our consciousness, stretching upwards (and downwards) through the densities in time/space (ethereal light bodies) and in space/time (future incarnations). So, certainly there are portions of your consciousness that are not in "suspended animation" as it were, and are going about their business at whatever level of consciousness they operate in.

In my opinion, the type of "suspension" Ra is referring to is a state of consciousness where the contents of consciousness are mostly gone. Oftentimes, after a soul exits an incarnation they will spend time in what they call the "resting place" which is a state of suspension where souls go to be without content of any kind for a period of subjective time. This is especially true after a traumatic incarnation or traumatic death. This suspension is considered to be desirable by these damaged souls, and they usually spend the equivalent of many earth years in this suspension, gradually healing the distortions in their mind/body/spirit complex. It has a rejuvenating effect upon the consciousness resting therein.

This is the same kind of suspension that is occurring in the case of a walk in.

With no up, nor down, would a coat not just float in the wind?

Humm, I think discussing the concept of walk-ins with you would help me understand better.

A walk-in is the spirit/mind complex portion of a spirit/mind/body complex that exchange places with your own spirit/mind complex and enters your body complex (all this with your agreement). Your own spirit/mind complex is then put into a suspended state until your body dies (the incarnation ends).

My question then is, does the resulting spirit/mind/body complex that is the walk-in still feel it is the same Self as before becoming a walk-in ? With the same memories and all that, but with different biases and maybe some changes in personality ?

All the while you still feel like your Self, because this feeling of Self is only our physical brain ?

In all my investigations of walk ins (and I have looked into it rather extensively), the new mind/body/spirit complex which has exchanged places with the original occupant of the body ordinarily has no idea that it is a walk-in soul. They are subject to the same amnesia the previously incarnated soul was. They are imprinted with all the same incarnate memories the original soul had, and from their perspective, experienced no discontinuity of consciousness when the exchange was made (as they were not even aware of it consciously in the first place).

Occasionally, they will be aware of a change in their personality patterns at some specific time in their life. However, they would ordinarily just think they were just "going through a phase" or something.

They only become aware of being a walk in very rarely, as in the circumstance of going to a hypnotherapist for past life/between life therapy, or perhaps they were an advanced meditator and retrieved the memories themselves, through their own ability to delve into their own minds.

The feeling of self is not solely derived from the physical brain. The physical brain and body is like a lens that consciousness is looking through. It has certain shades of color, magnification, and distortion. Any consciousness looking through that lens will be distorting its consciousness through that lens whenever it looks through it, so even a new soul looking through that old lens will naturally be subject to many of the same biases the previous individuated consciousness was.

Then do you believe you can be a "walk-in" without knowing it? Where does the sense of Self really comes from ? Is it exclusively the mind ?

I know 3d is not of knowing, but I can't seem to stop myself from trying to know.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to know. The third density is naturally one of curiosity.

The sense of self comes from your own awareness of individuality. As Ra would say, the source of ALL distortions, is the limit of the viewpoint.

The sense of self is intrinsic to your existence as intelligent energy. You are an extension of the creator. There is no ending to the mind/body/spirit. They can't continue, one without the other. They are inextricably intertwined. The sense of a separate self, a separate individuality, apart from other individualities is simply a factor of your awareness of separation. The more aware you are of separation, the less aware of unity you are. They are opposite thoughtforms, you see. It's like light and darkness. The more light there is, the less darkness there can be. The more darkness there is, the less light there can be.

Mainly I'm trying to understand the nature of what we feel is our Self. Is it just the mind complex ?

I suppose it all boils down to what you define the "self" as. In some ways, the self may be described as a patternized organization of dissociated consciousness. The unique blend of distortions, or patternization, that we call a "personality" is always changing, even if only gradually. We are all evolving. We latch onto some biases we have and call it an identity, but we are so much more. We are everything. We are the space in which this unique blend of traits has appeared. We are infinite intelligence.

We are like a kitchen with every possible ingredient imaginable. And personalities are like unique combinations of ingredients that we are temporarily focused upon. When we grow tired of this particular combination, we will experiment with others, and inbetween these experiments we are looking from a more broad perspective at the whole kitchen of ingredients. The ingredients that made that personality will always exist, and can always be recreated if so desired. There is no loss to the creator.

However, we will not always identify with that shell of personality, but rather, we will identify with all that is -- the totality of all unique combinations, biases, and distortions which make up all creations.

Nothing is ever lost, but as Ra would say, that which is no longer needed falls away.