12-28-2009, 03:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-28-2009, 03:48 PM by Peregrinus.)
(12-28-2009, 07:53 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: It only has force in one direction in this case the blue spiral does not produce much thrust. And you say 3 spirals, but I only count 2. Can you refer me to an image where there are three spirals?
If the two white spirals are very close and not at an 180 degrees angle it might actually support the idea that part of the engine got stuck inside the beam splitting it in two, deflecting it in two directions as opposed to just bent where I was working from. However, if the angle of separation is close to 180 degrees then that's becoming unlikely.
Dearest Ali Quadir,
Please see the picture I have attached. Each spiral is color coordinated and numbered, 1) as the one which has the highest force (thrust) exerted, 2) as the secondary and lesser force (thrust) exerted, and 3) the blue "release of gas" which you say exerted little or no force (thrust).
The two white "thrust" spirals are almost at a 180 degree angle, meaning one would have to come from the front or near front of the rocket. Unless the third stage was at the cone, some sort of new direction changing rocket...
The secondary white spiral is almost as large as the first, and looks to have caused at least 1/3 the force (thrust), based upon the distance the spiral goes as the two fan out, of the larger white spiral.
Whether one, two, or three generated forces (thrust), a rocket will simply not keep a straight trajectory when there is any kind of wobble (which would be absolutely indicated by the blue trailing "gas" spiral). The trajectory will become more and more irregular. This spiral kept its place for fifteen minutes, despite three different acting releases of energy (thrust).
Next... being that the blue spiral is seen as right to left proves that this was not taken directly from a rear (tail) position, and this makes it even more impossible to explain. Should not the spirals center point have been seen moving from right to left also? If you can show me any rocket in history that is visible in one spot for 15 minutes from a side angle, I will tip my hat to you, but I know you will not and can not.
Another point on the angle; if this "rocket" was launched from the South East, and flew to the North West, why was the blue "trailing gas" seen to have come from the South West? If the "blue trailing gas" were to have followed the rocket, it would be behind the white spirals, not in front of them.
Furthermore, how does one account that the further away the "rocket" gets, the tighter the blue spirals get? The white spirals move outward, yet why does the blue "gas" spiral not do so? And why does the blue "gas" spiral not dissipate? The white spirals do. Granted you say that the blue spiral did not exert enough energy (thrust) to have an effect, yet the blue spiral did move outward for some time, but then moved inward "tightening up" the father from the rocket this "release of gas" got. Unless there was some special "weather anomaly" which closed in on this "gas" in perfect concentric circles and stopped it from dissipating while at the same time keeping the form of the original spirals...
Absolutely, irrefutably... and there are so many more things I could point out; far more than I mention here. This was without a doubt not a rocket.
Whether it was ground based or space based is the only question that I may see arise. My first instinct was that it was ground based, and although I really would like to think of it as space based, it most likely was ground based.
Until we understand (if we ever do) the capabilities of what HAARP and EISCAT can do, this leaves us in the dark on that aspect. Being that the EISCAT facilty had a test (Tequila Sunrise) scheduled, ran that test using a GigaWatt of power at the exact time of the spiral show, and looked to visually be at the place of origin of the blue spiral, this simply does add up to be the most likely cause.
(12-28-2009, 02:17 PM)transiten Wrote:(12-28-2009, 01:34 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Astrology-related posts have been moved to their own thread.
Thanks monica
Feels great to have aspecial thread...only i suspect not many will be very interested
Never mind, i'm used to that
transiten
I was wrong, there was some serious interest
transiten
I'm interested. Just keep it in grade 1 astrology terms so I can understand!