04-19-2012, 12:32 PM
(04-19-2012, 01:04 AM)hogey11 Wrote: However, the line I am drawing builds on what Ashim just posted ; 'birthed' is probably the wrong word compared to the concept of 'letting the cat out of the bag'. By intervening physically on earth, Ra had provided the opportunity for Orion entities to do the same through the weakening of the quarantine. The end result of this was Orion influence tainting nearly every religious/political group from that point on in history (ie: the evil illuminati)
I understand what you are saying, but I don't agree with that. It is third density Free Will to call whomever they want to call. If the call is of positive vibration, then a Confederation entity answers; if the call is of negative vibration, then Orion answers. Because if thinking in the lines as you've stated above, then it wasn't really Ra that "let the cat out of bag" then, was it? It was third density calls of negative vibrations that weakened the quarantine and invited Orion.
But anyway, what do you think about Ra, or any other Confederation entity in regards to the calls from those who wants to learn service to others polarity. Should Confederation not answer those calls?
hogey11 Wrote:By Ra leaving, I mean they left with their physical bodies. What I am intimating is that the STS entities that may have slipped security may have not done the same, which has in part led to the long term success of this group in controlling the planet (if indeed 6000 years is a good estimate).
So what you are saying is that STS entities from Orion are here physically and controlling this planet?
hogey11 Wrote:As far as Yahweh goes, his 'easy mode' was the Garden of Eden. I like to think of Yahweh as that part of ourselves that thinks everyone is your best friend. The part that makes you instantly like someone. Yahweh was a helicopter parent - he wasn't willing to provide the challenges we needed to continue to grow. This is why Lucifer (the bad-ass uncle) had to intervene and crash the party. This is why I can generally absolve Eve from her charges; she was doing what was best for our catalytic futures.
Ehm... This is taken from Hidden Hand material and some other sources, right? Because, if I remember this part from the Ra material more or less correctly, it is stated there that Yahweh were Confederation entities, who were Guardians of those once inhabiting the planet Mars, and who then later got transfered to this planet. These third density entities had some distortions inplanted in them, and Orion group was able to impress negativity due these distortions, i.e. marsians thinking them being special and different, which I think happened 3600 years ago. During this, the Orion group was also able to impress upon these people that Yahweh was the one who was responsible for this elitism thinking. Yahweh felt then a need to change its name.
Another thing about Yahweh, Eve and this whole Eden Garden and Lucifer's surprise party in it - this never happened on Earth as far as I understand it from the Ra material. This happened long, long time ago in the beginning of this Octave experiences, near the central suns probably, and is what is called the "pre-veil" experiences in the Ra material, but it never happened on Earth, or Mars for that matter. In fact, even with Yahweh as Guardians, marsians still managed to destroy their planetary sphere due their bellicose nature. And as far as I understand it, these people weren't contacted by Orion entities (if we now equal Lucifer with Orion entities) until 3600 years ago.
hogey11 Wrote:As far as Moses goes, I got that he was aware of the Law of One by this passage:
Quote:As with contacts which are not successful, this entity, vibratory complex, Moishe, did not remain a credible influence among those who had first heard the philosophy of One and this entity was removed from this third-density vibratory level in a lessened or saddened state, having lost, what you may call, the honor and faith with which he had begun the conceptualization of the Law of One and the freeing of those who were of his tribes, as they were called at that time/space.
I take it from this that there were still priests familiar with the Law of One in the egyptian temples/palace when Moses was living there.
Many hebrew people, whose Guardians was the Confederation entity once called Yahweh, were in the vicinity of Egypt, and in the Egypt. This is what I was trying to say by telling that Confederation contains many, many entities and many, many social memory complexes. And it's impossible to say who did what (if that is what intrests one), if it is not stated anywhere. And it is not stated in the material at least, who contacted Moishe.
hogey11 Wrote:As to the orion entities being allowed to enter, I highlighted those two passages because they intimated that due to Ra being in physical form on earth, the polarity was imbalanced towards STO due to their influence. This imbalance led to the quarantine borders not being patrolled as tightly, meaning the 'windows' mentioned by Ra would be more numerous and predictable. This would allow an Orion entity to answer a calling and enter the quarantine, in theory anyways....
Ehm... I understand what you are saying, but I disagree. I think that the polarity can never be imbalanced by physical appearance from positive entities. However, if there are *also* negative calls from the same group of entities who are calling to positive entities, then even the negative calls must be answered, so that the Free Will is preserved. The Free Will is a right to choose, while veiled. So if we speak of two people for simplicity's sake, and the first one wants to choose the service to others path, then the positive entities land and try to teach/learn their philosophy. But if the other one wants to choose the service to self path, then his Free Will must be preserved and his call is what weakens the quarantine and so, the negative entities are now able to teach/learn their philosophy too; i.e. not the presence of the positive entities, in my understanding.