Evidence for Psychic Powers

[Ali Quadir]

I didn't catch that claim anywhere in the thread, or are you referring to his doing the psiwheel experiment? If he claims this is so then yes, I don't see why such a thing wouldn't be reproducible in a lab environment and I'd certainly be very interested in witnessing a lab test of this happening, or at least a video of this feat.

yes, the psiwheel. I guess you're not familiar with that? It's the one where people's subtle breathing, or even body movements, readily moves it. Now if that didn't work in a lab-experiment conditions, then it would be interesting to find out why as well, considering the track record of success outside of a lab.

But it works in the lab! The psi wheel wasn't invented by new agers, it was invented by russian scientists. Who did a lot of research into TK in the cold war. Just like their american counterparts did. The russians found that it was the easiest way to demonstrate and practice TK.

These days there is another method that has become more popular in the lab, it's the psychic influencing of random event generators. This allows for vastly more trials and vastly more reliable research.

Just study parapsychology. Read some of their magazines. Their research is years beyond the point of wondering whether it actually works. They're now researching how it works and what factors influence it.

The pseudo skeptics still hold the confidence of the majority. But the science is firmly in the hand of the parapsychologists. They're demonstrating parapsychological events with certainties that are unheard of in the rest of the scientific world. In physics a reliabilty of 70% or p=.70 is often acceptable to demonstrate an effect, psychology generally looks for a significance of p=0.95, parapsychologists aren't happy with effects weaker than p=.9999. That's evidence so strong that most science could not demonstrate anything if they were demanded to deliver the same certainty in their results. Presuming their model is valid there is literally a chance of one in millions that they're wrong. And these guys are very informed about scientific methodology... They have to be! Their results are repeatable and the required information to do this yourself is available in the psipog site I gave.

Purely speaking from the bodies of scientific evidence we're more certain of the reality of psychic events than we are of evolution or the big bang. So yes it has most certainly been empirically demonstrated, time and time and time again.

The paranormal is just an area that is taboo in modern science. Merely mentioning it attracts ridicule. Mentioning the evidence attracts a lot of vehement criticism. First by calling out that there is no evidence. Then if you mention the tip of the overwhelming iceberg of evidence.. They will be mentioning skeptical researchers who failed to reproduce the results of experiments all the way up to calling fraud or idiocy. There is simply no way anyone comes to the discussion without preconceived notions.

But if you study the evidence found by really good methodological scientists, for example the PEAR group, and imagine that the research area was ordinary psychology, medical science or physics. Then it's clear that these people have demonstrated beyond all reasonable doubt the reality of the paranormal powers of every average person decades ago...