Evolving Consciousness

[Ali Quadir]

Yes I believe I see the problem in our communication now Ali.

You are attempting to explain creation as a thing separate from its Creator, whereas I perceive it all as One.

Unfortunately... No.. I am not.. Consciousness is the creator, is the unchanging all that is. However, I do believe we're homing in on our differences

The difference between our perceptions is that in yours you see an Origin as an unchanging Mountain of Source, whereas I see the Source as changing directly because of its Being.

I would not call it a mountain. It is equally nothing as it is everything. It is the void, Sunyata.

If we were talking quantam physics specifically, would you consider a force changed when it is affected by an anti force in such a way that it becomes two opposing forces repelling each other, instead of one inert stable force?

A force is not a thing that interacts with another force. A force in physics is a mathematical construct, it only manifestly interacts with objects. It reflects the transfer of energy. Energy is a real thing. But when two forces cancel each other out there is effectively no movement, no transfer.

And moreso, would you consider something that has no movement, no process, no existence, to be a force?

No. A force is a directional transfer of energy. Anything that is not a directional transfer of energy is therefore not a force.

The Origin of which we speak could not produce all that exists without having become something itself.

That is not true. The zero point field is a good example. It is essentially nothing. Yet it is full of virtual interactions. The whole universe is similarly contained in itself, all it's forces and energies cancel each other out. The entire universe is a non event. It is a potential within consciousness. It merely is real to us because of the distortions we experience.

Perhaps it helps to look through the many worlds theory. The world can potentially exist in an 'infinite' amount of states. Simply speaking: any state is some moment in space/time/possibility. The possible states do not actually change. Anything you'd call growth or evolution already exists at the start. And it will exist in the end even if we have not experienced it.

So the totality of the universe before and after creation has not actually changed. In both cases there exist both now moments. Only from our distorted perspective the kaleidoscope changes. Our base consciousness does not experience "this state" as separate from "that state". But from within the distortions that our third density self speaks from we most certainly do...

Our true self exists/observes all possible states simultaneously. Infinite and unchanging.

What you describe as the all that is, it seems to me, is a subset of those states. Not all of them and therefore not the all that is.