04-11-2012, 10:26 AM
(04-11-2012, 07:54 AM)ShinAr Wrote: And I would have to say that I think there is much new out there awaiting our interaction.You describe the kaleidoscope of reality. You can spend an infinity exploring it deeper and deeper and it wil always present you with something "new"... Something you've never seen or experienced before. As enjoyable as this might be, this is not growth of consciousness.
What you have described sounds like there is nothing other than what has already been experienced, and just repetitions of it.
But what I feel is that many thoughts sent out ahead to create, await the interaction of the Source of those thoughts and how those thoughts became more than what they started as.
What I feel is that there is as vast a number of new experiences waiting for us to catch up with them as there are already experienced and left behind as memory.
Once you've glanced into the infinite self. You'll begin to recognize it all over the kaleidoscope. All the images will become repetitions of the One. Untill you only see nothing but that singularity and merge with it. This is growth of consciousness.
As your consciousness grows, your outside world must by necesity become smaller. When you become all that is, your outside world must cease to be.
(04-11-2012, 09:39 AM)Siren Wrote:It is both. The nothing is part of the sentient and the perceived. Not realizing what we're seeing is not a reason to presume otherwise. Ultimate reality most certainly contains your current experience. There is no such thing as illusion. Illusion is a name for experience. Experience is part of reality. So the illusory nature of things is also part of their reality.Quote:To say that there are 8 or any amount of distinct levels is like saying there are 8 or any amount of distinct colors. In reality it does not work like that. But as an analogy it is useful.
What is "reality" ultimately? Is it this, the aware, the observed and the sentient and the perceived? All the Light? Or is reality really the Nothingness out of which the One Infinite Creator became aware to experience this Creation/Itself?
All that is must by necesity be present in our consciousness... All the time... Since all that is is contained in all things and all things are contained in the all. The universe is holographic in nature.
When those moments of true enlightenment come. No one ever says "I never imagined it to be like that." Every one says "I have always been here!" it is union with the ultimate self and that self is self right here, right now. Not in some remote theoretical future.
We have all we need to experience enlightenment within. All the teachings, all the studies, all the work is just giving yourself permission slips.
Quote:There are various ways to understand things. And I should repeat, no one way or system is better than the other as long as you can gain understanding (and growth) out of it.That's what I am saying. However there is only one direction of growth..
Towards the one!
All ways of understanding ultimately lead up to only that one direction of growth. If they do not then they do not lead to spiritual growth at all! And thus are not teachings of spiritual growth but mere mental masturbation.
I don't mean to say all teachings are false. Absolutely not. I mean to say all teachings are to a degree equal. And no teachings hold within them spiritual growth they must inspire the seeker to look within to accomplish that goal.
Learning the spiritual teachings for the sake of just learning them is pointless.... unless they inspire.