(03-29-2012, 04:08 PM)Diana Wrote:(03-29-2012, 03:32 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:(03-29-2012, 03:05 PM)Diana Wrote:(03-29-2012, 01:51 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: And yet... we have all these "spiritual teachers" and "gurus" telling us to be more loving, or more compassionate, or to have more faith... and very few imploring us to seek wisdom within. Might this perhaps have something to do with the fact that the wise person would immediately recognize the folly of giving one's power away to external sources?
I couldn't agree more.
Please explain why you agree.
Gurus and living masters have set themselves up as the ones who "know." They are here to tell us how to "get there." Been there, done that, so to speak. This may be the case, but in maintaining this stance, it sets up 2 dynamics:
1) They accumulate followers. To be a follower is to be disempowered, by my definition. With no followers, they would not have the title of "guru," "master," etc. It seems to me it can be in their own interest to be followed. However, the responsibility to think/feel for one's self is at issue, and not to follow what someone else thinks/feels. What the gurus and masters have to say is information to be discerned, not followed (in my opinion).
2) It is infringing upon free will in a way--the free will do do it yourself. Is it enlightened to tell someone how to become enlightened? Gurus and living masters lecture to followers or seekers. Yet, how many paths are there to evolve? An infinite number, of course. I would rather see teachers who guide, but do not say "this is the way to enlightenment."
The funniest ones are the ones who tell you stuff like:
- dont trust me blindly
- trust yourself
- look inside yourself, the answers are there
- dont look outside yourself for guidance
- dont give your power away
- dont look to me to tell you what to do
- etc
. . . . . . . and then they have a thousand little copycats who follow them around, do everything they say, obey blindly, trust them blindly, laugh at every bad joke, worship their images, buy all their products, send them all their money, etc
David Wilcock is a good example.
One time in a dream I met a spiritual master who I had read (not DW) and in his writing he talked a lot about trusting in yourself and not looking to others to lead you.
In the dream I said to hi to him, and looked over, and 10 feet away there was a huge horde of a thousand worshippers blindly acquiescing, obeying, unquestioning, gazing at him in admiration ready to obey any wish.
Anyway in the dream I was upset at seeing all these people and how it did not even fit what he was teaching. He told me he didnt like it either but that the more he tells them to "f*** OFF!" the more they worship him. He has just learned to make the most of being followed around by these slaves who apparently dont even listen to his teachings.
So.... yeah I guess thats the earth for you. Maybe these gurus often dont want to be worshipped but have it literally forced on them. Slaves gonna slave.