The Harbinger

[Pablísimo]

Maybe I was mistaken about the intention of the Wanderer Stories section. It seemed from some of the posts that others were introducing themselves by stating what they believed and how they were led to come here. so that is what I attempted. No preaching was intedned, and to be honest there are not many, that see things as I do, which is one of the reason why I am unaffiliated.

I think you are correct in your understanding of the intention of the Thread. It is to introduce yourself and state what you believe and why you are here. I didn't get any preaching from that post.... just from many subsequent posts where there was disagreement.

What I meant was when you tell us that you've never been a lower consciousness, that you are some sort of angel, it indicates, TO ME, in my subjective view that you do not view us as equals. My subjective opinion is reinforced by what I perceive as your judgement and condemnation of others who simply have a different view.

I can only say that we are all made up oif much more than our temporary physical idenity. you allude to the fact that you are more comfortable relating to me in my temproary form, and yet that is the form I am most uncomfortable in, lol.

I'm sorry if I was unclear (It is Mercury Retrograde time, after all). For me, it's not a question of being comfortable with temporary versus higher form, but rather treating us with respect even if we disagree. Withholding such condemnation when others simply see things a different way. Respecting the opinions of others even if they are not your own. Trying to Learn as you Teach.

When I write I am often connected to aspects of my consciousness that are far deeper than any of my surface expressions. I used to have to go back and re=read what I had written to see what was there but I have become trusting about my consciousness now and do not second guess it anymore.

But having said that, I now see where that can be a problem with regard to forum guidelines and how others receive my intentions. So I admit that I must be more cautious when giving my writing over to my deeper consciousness like that.

I don't think your explanation was a violation of the guidelines or inappropriate. What I see is a lack of recognition of the limitations of your temporary form. Whatever we are, from wherever we are originally, right now we are in temporary 3D human form. That comes with limitations in our ability to perceive reality. We do not have all the information and the Veil is in place. Recognition of this fact leads one naturally to respect different viewpoints. We may feel we have the right answers, but we could be mistaken, thus it's best to respect even those with whom we do not agree.

As convinced as you are of your convictions, you could be wrong. So could I. Welcome to 3rd Density!

But let me ask you Pablissimo, do you see yourself as the temporary flesh you wear or do you believe that your consciousness has seen through many experiences from past lives?

The latter. I believe my consciousness has seen through many experiences from past lives.

The reason I ask is that you seem to be hesitant about my profession of past lives. IMO the consciousness has a vast history of experiences, and there are countless levels of those experiences depending on the individsual fragments. Some are far more ancient than others, and some are very young. the more experienced ones would obviously consist of the sharing of much more information and memory.

Could be, but while we we are in 3D I prefer to see everyone about me as the Creator. I will endeavor to treat others with respect and not belittle opinions of others nor accuse them of any darkness when they have a different perspective. I may not always succeed, but I am trying hard to treat others as my equal in all circumstances, regardless what I believe to be true.

And in my OP I related to what I have learned about my own consciousness through both the process of gnosis and the many rituals I have been through in the effort to learn more about my self and truth. I definitely do not mean to elevate my self above others. that is simply not how I percieve the All.

If that is the case, then I would hope you would take extra care to try to discuss things with those who do not have the benefit of never having been at a 'lower' level of consciousness.

I see us as all being part of a process and design in which many are at different levels of the process. sopme are young, and some are ancient, and others are somewhere in between. but All are on the same process. many countless others have gone on long before us.

Yes indeed. But who are we to judge others level of understanding? You seem to have many characteristics of the 4D+ Wanderer, but how do I really know? You could be a 6D Wanderer, or an Angel, or just a regular native human. I have no idea, really! I'm not even sure I am a wanderer myself, nor do I think it ultimately matters. We're all on the same basic Journey and I'm going to concentrate on finding the Love in the present moment.

As long as we are immersed in 3D in a human body, we will never know with absolute certainty. Thus, I would suggest sharing your understandings and your Light with others, but only plant the seeds of these beautiful flowers of wisdom. Leave those seeds to grow in the consciousness of others, but respect their free will to tend their own spiritual garden.

Some of us have pretty Green thumbs (and hearts!) around here and need little more than some of the seeds you are sowing to harvest a ripe crop. I'd rather discuss our fields as one farmer to another, as equals. And if you use a different method of growing, then so be it. Maybe it's better, maybe it's worse. My only judgement is that it's uniquely yours. And that's just perfect.


Love to all