03-22-2012, 10:57 AM
Shin'Ar, let me add my thoughts on this matter.
It does not matter what one is considered as "STS" and "STO" is not really an exact definitin in itself. It is a tool to describe certain things, and it is DEFINITELY (
) not something that is a label that gets stamped on your skin if you SIN.
What matters is this: upon this upcoming "Harvest" (be it a sudden event, an event that spans through several decades, whatever), individuals have the opportunity increase their abilities to sense, to understand, to contain more of the Love of the Infinite Creator. Now, that 95% "STS requirement" means that if one is really, really so set up on its goal to have as much power and control (over himself, over others, over "everything"), then it is possible to have one's existence elevated to another level. Not some kind of present for being bad, hell no. It is just that it is what he/she is aiming for, and the event of Harvest actually allows a change. This is usually mentioned in a negative way, meaning that "negative polarity 4th density" is a place full of war, being alone, continuing on the path that one choose in this manner. They want power, so they meet their opponents, be it other STS beings or STO groups set to protect other realms.
In the meantime, there is a way to possibly broaden one's existence by positive means. Integration, love, care to what we desribe as "others" - and the 51% simply means that you really are thinking for others just as much or slightly more at least, than for yourself -, then you will be a positive polarity 4th density being. By the law of attraction (what you put out is what you get back), it is obvious that as with the negative entities, here the positive beings experience more of the joy, the creation, the building of societies, harmony, connection, creation of new ideas, and most importantly: a lack of fear, mostly thanks to the new understanding without any Veils present.
What you are describing as STS and STO, based on the above post of yours, is simply a totally different viewpoint. People who bathe in the joy found in physical existence? Becoming addicted to it? There have been a lot of different teachings about this, trying to reach Nirvana by getting rid of all addictions and expectations is one of the most known - or the extreme Christian view where every joy one has has some kind of Sin attached to it, for what we should feel ashamed.
Personally, I do not agree with this. I know that these physical joys are but temporary. I know that by allowing ourselves to experience it, we obviously will experience other aspects of this existence as well - which is mainly: obesity, physical sickness, making love without finding someone who actually loves you, accidents, the ability to kill, the ability to be killed, cancer, diseases, sleepiness, being tired, sweating, being smelly and beaten in a job that let us you eat nothing but cheap food and watch tv - all these things are again a different side of the coin. I also think that is for every single individual to recognize and realize that the seeking of the pleasures is sometimes thanks to the belief system that says "if you stop this, you will be less! you will die! you will not be who you are anymore!" - and I am very happy if I am able to help someone or myself to fight these - false - beliefs. That is what one who polarizes positively usually does. By being an example, trying to help when they can.
But the whole STS/STO is - for me - totally unrelated to that. Even the definition is different. There are positive STS individuals. If a monk meditates for his own enlightment all his life, that is no service for others. It is service for self. If he attains it and does not stay incarnated like Buddha did, well..was he a "Son of Belial" then? No, I think not. And he definitely did not bathe in pleasures. If someone slaps me a face, that is what? If it gives joy to him, that is STS, but what does it say about what he does to me? If I get pleasure out of pain, will this be also STO? But if I get seriously injured thanks to that, was it a...well, I say it was a negative service for me - but also something that is totally dependent on MY belief system.
And here is where we reach our main disagreement, I believe. Because it has been said countless times that the STS beings, just being who they are, are giving us catalysts. Giving us opportunities to reflect on the actions of others and say "I am not that person. I do not want to be someone who gets greedy over money. I do not wanna screw others like they do. I do not wanna hurt others." Etc.
You know that recent Facebook group that says "We love you Iran, we would not bomb you?" If actually the majority of one country would do that when they are in war against another nation, that would mean that a few negative individual's reckless action has pushed enough people over the fenct to be able to EXPRESS THEIR LOVE over people that are perceived as being from a different nation. What is catalyst if not that?
The world is not black and white. It is an all-encompassing gold of Love, but what we do with it is totally up for each and every one of us.
It does not matter what one is considered as "STS" and "STO" is not really an exact definitin in itself. It is a tool to describe certain things, and it is DEFINITELY (
) not something that is a label that gets stamped on your skin if you SIN. What matters is this: upon this upcoming "Harvest" (be it a sudden event, an event that spans through several decades, whatever), individuals have the opportunity increase their abilities to sense, to understand, to contain more of the Love of the Infinite Creator. Now, that 95% "STS requirement" means that if one is really, really so set up on its goal to have as much power and control (over himself, over others, over "everything"), then it is possible to have one's existence elevated to another level. Not some kind of present for being bad, hell no. It is just that it is what he/she is aiming for, and the event of Harvest actually allows a change. This is usually mentioned in a negative way, meaning that "negative polarity 4th density" is a place full of war, being alone, continuing on the path that one choose in this manner. They want power, so they meet their opponents, be it other STS beings or STO groups set to protect other realms.
In the meantime, there is a way to possibly broaden one's existence by positive means. Integration, love, care to what we desribe as "others" - and the 51% simply means that you really are thinking for others just as much or slightly more at least, than for yourself -, then you will be a positive polarity 4th density being. By the law of attraction (what you put out is what you get back), it is obvious that as with the negative entities, here the positive beings experience more of the joy, the creation, the building of societies, harmony, connection, creation of new ideas, and most importantly: a lack of fear, mostly thanks to the new understanding without any Veils present.
What you are describing as STS and STO, based on the above post of yours, is simply a totally different viewpoint. People who bathe in the joy found in physical existence? Becoming addicted to it? There have been a lot of different teachings about this, trying to reach Nirvana by getting rid of all addictions and expectations is one of the most known - or the extreme Christian view where every joy one has has some kind of Sin attached to it, for what we should feel ashamed.
Personally, I do not agree with this. I know that these physical joys are but temporary. I know that by allowing ourselves to experience it, we obviously will experience other aspects of this existence as well - which is mainly: obesity, physical sickness, making love without finding someone who actually loves you, accidents, the ability to kill, the ability to be killed, cancer, diseases, sleepiness, being tired, sweating, being smelly and beaten in a job that let us you eat nothing but cheap food and watch tv - all these things are again a different side of the coin. I also think that is for every single individual to recognize and realize that the seeking of the pleasures is sometimes thanks to the belief system that says "if you stop this, you will be less! you will die! you will not be who you are anymore!" - and I am very happy if I am able to help someone or myself to fight these - false - beliefs. That is what one who polarizes positively usually does. By being an example, trying to help when they can.
But the whole STS/STO is - for me - totally unrelated to that. Even the definition is different. There are positive STS individuals. If a monk meditates for his own enlightment all his life, that is no service for others. It is service for self. If he attains it and does not stay incarnated like Buddha did, well..was he a "Son of Belial" then? No, I think not. And he definitely did not bathe in pleasures. If someone slaps me a face, that is what? If it gives joy to him, that is STS, but what does it say about what he does to me? If I get pleasure out of pain, will this be also STO? But if I get seriously injured thanks to that, was it a...well, I say it was a negative service for me - but also something that is totally dependent on MY belief system.
And here is where we reach our main disagreement, I believe. Because it has been said countless times that the STS beings, just being who they are, are giving us catalysts. Giving us opportunities to reflect on the actions of others and say "I am not that person. I do not want to be someone who gets greedy over money. I do not wanna screw others like they do. I do not wanna hurt others." Etc.
You know that recent Facebook group that says "We love you Iran, we would not bomb you?" If actually the majority of one country would do that when they are in war against another nation, that would mean that a few negative individual's reckless action has pushed enough people over the fenct to be able to EXPRESS THEIR LOVE over people that are perceived as being from a different nation. What is catalyst if not that?
The world is not black and white. It is an all-encompassing gold of Love, but what we do with it is totally up for each and every one of us.
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