03-21-2012, 10:47 PM
Tenet Nosche,
It is unfortunate that you did not let everyone know the gist of the entire post that was made in the DC forum.
Although as you noted I do think it is in here somewhere anyway.
When I speak of dark and light as the natural polarity found in the design of the universe this is vastly different than the darkness of greedy self gratifying people who manipulate and abuse others for their own personal gain. But I think you knew that.
is it an insult for me to point that out? I do not think so given the amount of posts that we have shared that lead me to make that remark. Why can I not state what I observe?
If I come to a place and my observation is that many of those I have just conversed with seem to be tolerant of STS, than how is it an insult for me to say that I find that many here seem to be STS oriented? It might be an insult if I was deliberately trying to offend someone. But when I am simply relaying what I believe I am experiencing, than that is simply stating what I observe as fact. Ot at least possible and needing further invetsigation.
I had good reason to try to lead a discussion by posting the Brown Notes without actually labeling them. I had tried to have a discussion about STs and the best of my efforts were being mocked and derailed. If that tactic had worked, whether a little underhanded or not, it certainly would have had a dramatic affect at revealing some of the things that I was trying to reveal here.
I have been clear about my feelings around the apathetic stance with regard to STS. In many of my earlier discussions here on that topic, with a few particular members, the discussions very much gave me the impression that STS was being taught by them to be worthy of exploration and that it didnt really matter because we are all One anyway.
But, I am not here to point fingers or try to corner anyone by rehashing that or posting all those remarks. they are in here somewhere. What matters is that there might be a chance that something that I have said has caused someone who might have been thinking that STS is a path worth exploring, might now think twice.
That makes all of this worthwhile to me. Heck, just the fact that I am getting Gary to actually read the Brown Notebook is a bonus. Who knows, maybe some of the confusion can be cleared up completey when some of what I said is further investigated.
All in all, these remarks that many of you have made about me were expected and only serve to point out that which I was already trying to point out. There are many here who have a problem with having their understandings of STS questioned and dissected.
But my observations and whether or not they were accurate and credible is not what matters. What matters is whether or not the issues are real. Those in defiance that are pretending that there never was any issue know how those earlier discussions went and exactly why I came to those conclusions. So what point would there be in me now trying to point fingers and serach through old posts? I would get the same response all over again.
Light and dark. Polarity. If you understand what that means than you will not need me to explain the balancing of the two in nature.
Darkness and STS. Well, in this forum, that seems to be up for grabs. But if someone states that they think that partaking in STS is a great way to learn about one's self, or that it really doesn't matter if someone murders someone or not because we are all One, than I would state that person to be STS oriented. Which is what I found with at least half a dozen members here as they argued their points about exactly that with me.
Insulting? Not in my understanding.
It is unfortunate that you did not let everyone know the gist of the entire post that was made in the DC forum.
Although as you noted I do think it is in here somewhere anyway.
When I speak of dark and light as the natural polarity found in the design of the universe this is vastly different than the darkness of greedy self gratifying people who manipulate and abuse others for their own personal gain. But I think you knew that.
is it an insult for me to point that out? I do not think so given the amount of posts that we have shared that lead me to make that remark. Why can I not state what I observe?
If I come to a place and my observation is that many of those I have just conversed with seem to be tolerant of STS, than how is it an insult for me to say that I find that many here seem to be STS oriented? It might be an insult if I was deliberately trying to offend someone. But when I am simply relaying what I believe I am experiencing, than that is simply stating what I observe as fact. Ot at least possible and needing further invetsigation.
I had good reason to try to lead a discussion by posting the Brown Notes without actually labeling them. I had tried to have a discussion about STs and the best of my efforts were being mocked and derailed. If that tactic had worked, whether a little underhanded or not, it certainly would have had a dramatic affect at revealing some of the things that I was trying to reveal here.
I have been clear about my feelings around the apathetic stance with regard to STS. In many of my earlier discussions here on that topic, with a few particular members, the discussions very much gave me the impression that STS was being taught by them to be worthy of exploration and that it didnt really matter because we are all One anyway.
But, I am not here to point fingers or try to corner anyone by rehashing that or posting all those remarks. they are in here somewhere. What matters is that there might be a chance that something that I have said has caused someone who might have been thinking that STS is a path worth exploring, might now think twice.
That makes all of this worthwhile to me. Heck, just the fact that I am getting Gary to actually read the Brown Notebook is a bonus. Who knows, maybe some of the confusion can be cleared up completey when some of what I said is further investigated.
All in all, these remarks that many of you have made about me were expected and only serve to point out that which I was already trying to point out. There are many here who have a problem with having their understandings of STS questioned and dissected.
But my observations and whether or not they were accurate and credible is not what matters. What matters is whether or not the issues are real. Those in defiance that are pretending that there never was any issue know how those earlier discussions went and exactly why I came to those conclusions. So what point would there be in me now trying to point fingers and serach through old posts? I would get the same response all over again.
Light and dark. Polarity. If you understand what that means than you will not need me to explain the balancing of the two in nature.
Darkness and STS. Well, in this forum, that seems to be up for grabs. But if someone states that they think that partaking in STS is a great way to learn about one's self, or that it really doesn't matter if someone murders someone or not because we are all One, than I would state that person to be STS oriented. Which is what I found with at least half a dozen members here as they argued their points about exactly that with me.
Insulting? Not in my understanding.