03-21-2012, 09:30 AM
Well, it has been interesting and revealing.
As with religion anywhere it is always corrupted to some degree by the opinions of those who try to profess it to meet their own agandas.
In looking back over past threads I can see that this community has long been fighting that same old battle with visitors that come here and see the contradictions, try to point them out and then get gangbanged by the same little gang. They know who they are. It would be a grand waste of time to cut and paste threads to point to anyone in particular because they are what they are and certainly revealed themselves clearly to me. Pretense is meaningless. True love for others is not something that once can hide. And petty selfishness also reveals itself in the way that one responds to another.
I wanted to light a fire here under the issue of STs and that has been done. I was not aware that this same thing has been a contention before and is a recurring theme. That should tell you something, but instead you will continue to ignore it. Enjoy the darkness and exploring the STS path and convince yourselves that it is just another means of understanding your true identity. You will learn the truth the hard way. Your self deception and delusion will reveal itself to you as you evolve. I have let my light shine here on the matter and will not bring it up again. I made the effort and now know who is who. Those who responded to me coyly and disrespectfully know who they are. And that is just who they are. They do not need me to tell them.
This is my take on the Law of One as professed by L/L Research and it will probably be cut or sent into oblivion.
But for what it is worth, even if it touched one person who truly seeks the Light, I will be happy.
The original groups back in 1958 attracted Don Elkins attention. the channleing which they did found in the Brown Notebook reveals two entities knwon as Hatonn and Latwii who speak of love for others as the only way to follow the Creator to the Light. Their words are filled with hope and love and light. They denounce service to self as both unnecessary and not a path to be taken by anyone for any reason unless one would want to be selfish and self centered and not give a care for anyone other than themselves.
They also made it clear that there is darkness in the world and that as intelligent beings we would be wise to beware of it. It is in control of this planet and applies mass manipulation to enslave mankind with deception and greed.
Now along comes Don Elkins and he reads this material and decides to try channeling as well. Only he and Carla seem to have connected with this entity named Ra who is in disagreement with Hatonn and Latwii. Ra espouses that if all is one than there is really no difference between STS and STO and that it is really nothing more than personal preference. Ra suggets that if one wants to explore STS, that eventually it will still get one to the Creator. There is no warning. There is no continuation of what was channeled through Hatonn and Latwii. Ra shows no concern for the darkness or greed and selfishness. And they use the Law of One to support their teachings.
Now, in 2011 someone from L/L Research comes across these Brown Notebooks and chooses to post a link to it on the forum. BUT Carla decides to disassociate herself from them not wishing to acknowledge their teachings as valuable or unworthy.
This seems strange and it would be interesting to know exactly who came across that material and why she chose to disregard it, while at the same time adding it to the L/L Research information base.
I will not make accusations, just assumptions based on what seems to be revealing itself to me.
Carla and Don probably meant well. In that era peace and love and very liberal attitudes were running rampant. not to mention that everyone was fried out of their minds. I think they channelled in opposition to the teachings of Hatonn and Latwii and came up with Ra. In this way their ideals around self and free will not quite as discolored as they were by Hatonn.
Decades later someone in L/L Research comes across the brown Notebook and Carla must reconfront the issue. She okays a link to it but declares that she cannot either support it nor deny it. she simply flat out disassociates herself from a group the group, the Circle R, that was soley responsible for the adventure that she then spent the rest of her life on. With her Bible never out of reach she finds her comfort in removing herself from Don's roots in the Circle R channleings, and professing the teachings of Ra, in contradiction to the teaching of Hatonn.
Which of these entities should be heard? Who was channeling truth, the Circle R or L/L Research?
From what I observe, if you are one who likes to explore selfishness and greed and yet want to have a cleqar consciousness about it and be able to use entity quotations to support your self centered attitiude, than following the teaching of Ra would be the way to go. there is clearly much confusion and vagueness to cover your tracks there.
Whereas if you want to explore STS and darkness, you defintiely do not want to follow the teachings of Hatonn and Latwii. They will reveal your true colors in a millisecond.
It is a shame that in a community that is so enlightened about so many aspects of the One Consciousness and the nature of poalrity and duality, that there are still some who just cannot let go of the flesh. That addiction is a very difficult barrier to conquer. the Ancient Ones have taught about that addiction for thousands of years, and follow8ing the teaching of Ra, or Don Elkins, is not going to eliminate eons of Ancient teaching.
In the words of Hatonn and Latwii,
"People must seek this love and light, for there is great darkness in the world. It will bring about a better world and greater understanding.The basis of a true understanding of the Creator has been given: love and light. Some choose to follow this path. Others stumble along their own path of darkness."
Many will attenpt to derail and debunk this observation as they have done here in the past. But the Light when shone on the darkness here will continue to return through various Lightbringers.
they will always be spat on and ridiculed because the darkness hates the Light. And propnents of STS will always try to paint the Lightbringers in a shade that serves themselves. Isn't that what STS really is?
As with religion anywhere it is always corrupted to some degree by the opinions of those who try to profess it to meet their own agandas.
In looking back over past threads I can see that this community has long been fighting that same old battle with visitors that come here and see the contradictions, try to point them out and then get gangbanged by the same little gang. They know who they are. It would be a grand waste of time to cut and paste threads to point to anyone in particular because they are what they are and certainly revealed themselves clearly to me. Pretense is meaningless. True love for others is not something that once can hide. And petty selfishness also reveals itself in the way that one responds to another.
I wanted to light a fire here under the issue of STs and that has been done. I was not aware that this same thing has been a contention before and is a recurring theme. That should tell you something, but instead you will continue to ignore it. Enjoy the darkness and exploring the STS path and convince yourselves that it is just another means of understanding your true identity. You will learn the truth the hard way. Your self deception and delusion will reveal itself to you as you evolve. I have let my light shine here on the matter and will not bring it up again. I made the effort and now know who is who. Those who responded to me coyly and disrespectfully know who they are. And that is just who they are. They do not need me to tell them.
This is my take on the Law of One as professed by L/L Research and it will probably be cut or sent into oblivion.
But for what it is worth, even if it touched one person who truly seeks the Light, I will be happy.
The original groups back in 1958 attracted Don Elkins attention. the channleing which they did found in the Brown Notebook reveals two entities knwon as Hatonn and Latwii who speak of love for others as the only way to follow the Creator to the Light. Their words are filled with hope and love and light. They denounce service to self as both unnecessary and not a path to be taken by anyone for any reason unless one would want to be selfish and self centered and not give a care for anyone other than themselves.
They also made it clear that there is darkness in the world and that as intelligent beings we would be wise to beware of it. It is in control of this planet and applies mass manipulation to enslave mankind with deception and greed.
Now along comes Don Elkins and he reads this material and decides to try channeling as well. Only he and Carla seem to have connected with this entity named Ra who is in disagreement with Hatonn and Latwii. Ra espouses that if all is one than there is really no difference between STS and STO and that it is really nothing more than personal preference. Ra suggets that if one wants to explore STS, that eventually it will still get one to the Creator. There is no warning. There is no continuation of what was channeled through Hatonn and Latwii. Ra shows no concern for the darkness or greed and selfishness. And they use the Law of One to support their teachings.
Now, in 2011 someone from L/L Research comes across these Brown Notebooks and chooses to post a link to it on the forum. BUT Carla decides to disassociate herself from them not wishing to acknowledge their teachings as valuable or unworthy.
This seems strange and it would be interesting to know exactly who came across that material and why she chose to disregard it, while at the same time adding it to the L/L Research information base.
I will not make accusations, just assumptions based on what seems to be revealing itself to me.
Carla and Don probably meant well. In that era peace and love and very liberal attitudes were running rampant. not to mention that everyone was fried out of their minds. I think they channelled in opposition to the teachings of Hatonn and Latwii and came up with Ra. In this way their ideals around self and free will not quite as discolored as they were by Hatonn.
Decades later someone in L/L Research comes across the brown Notebook and Carla must reconfront the issue. She okays a link to it but declares that she cannot either support it nor deny it. she simply flat out disassociates herself from a group the group, the Circle R, that was soley responsible for the adventure that she then spent the rest of her life on. With her Bible never out of reach she finds her comfort in removing herself from Don's roots in the Circle R channleings, and professing the teachings of Ra, in contradiction to the teaching of Hatonn.
Which of these entities should be heard? Who was channeling truth, the Circle R or L/L Research?
From what I observe, if you are one who likes to explore selfishness and greed and yet want to have a cleqar consciousness about it and be able to use entity quotations to support your self centered attitiude, than following the teaching of Ra would be the way to go. there is clearly much confusion and vagueness to cover your tracks there.
Whereas if you want to explore STS and darkness, you defintiely do not want to follow the teachings of Hatonn and Latwii. They will reveal your true colors in a millisecond.
It is a shame that in a community that is so enlightened about so many aspects of the One Consciousness and the nature of poalrity and duality, that there are still some who just cannot let go of the flesh. That addiction is a very difficult barrier to conquer. the Ancient Ones have taught about that addiction for thousands of years, and follow8ing the teaching of Ra, or Don Elkins, is not going to eliminate eons of Ancient teaching.
In the words of Hatonn and Latwii,
"People must seek this love and light, for there is great darkness in the world. It will bring about a better world and greater understanding.The basis of a true understanding of the Creator has been given: love and light. Some choose to follow this path. Others stumble along their own path of darkness."
Many will attenpt to derail and debunk this observation as they have done here in the past. But the Light when shone on the darkness here will continue to return through various Lightbringers.
they will always be spat on and ridiculed because the darkness hates the Light. And propnents of STS will always try to paint the Lightbringers in a shade that serves themselves. Isn't that what STS really is?