03-16-2012, 01:09 PM
Good for you for not getting irritated. I worked many years on that. Now, I just say No Thank You, and do not engage. It won't work (in my opinion), because they are out to validate their stand on the issue. More below.
To see these things as a test by the "Creator" is giving authority to something/someone outside of self (the Creator). As I see it, it was catalyst, an opportunity for you to deal with some aspect of yourself.
I doubt this. Christians are obliged to hold a very narrow view (even within the Christian genre, they say the others are wrong--Protestant, Catholic, Mormon, and so on). A big flaw in religions is the thinking that their way is the only way. So it's doubtful she would have seen into your heart and understood.
Christians are also obliged to use complex strategies in order to believe because their religion is bible-based. I have read the whole bible: in general, it is unloving, unforgiving, and horribly violent (if you doubt this, just go to the ten commandments and read the 2 pages following). Christians must rationalize this with a "loving" god. Also, the basic premise that an individual would have to do one thing in order not to burn in hell is so horrible, I don't want to take the time to say what I think of it. It is all nonsensical, and subsequently they use phrases such as, "We can't know why God does this, that." So when the church mandates that the members proselytize, it is an opportunity to convince others, which is a device the mind uses to validate itself. In other words, the act of converting others makes the proselyter feel less doubtful about the nonsense.
So, although I think there may be some Christians who, in part, wish to actually do good by proselytizing, I think the bigger reason is validation, and adherence to a system because they have not awakened to thinking for themselves.
This is actually good. We need to move away from religions to waking up to our own thinking and feeling about the world. So, in a way, we can be thankful that proselytizers are so obnoxious.
(03-16-2012, 09:23 AM)godwide_void Wrote: After my usual prayer I stated that I understand that all individuals I meet and interact with are the Creator's way of testing me, for the Creator is within all beings and thus all words I direct to another are directed to the Creator. It will know if I am true to my intentions and faith by sending teachers and inquisitors in the form of people and situations my way. It will watch me and hear how I respond and carry myself using the eyes of those the Creator sends my way as proxies, ever aware and ever present.
To see these things as a test by the "Creator" is giving authority to something/someone outside of self (the Creator). As I see it, it was catalyst, an opportunity for you to deal with some aspect of yourself.
(03-16-2012, 09:23 AM)godwide_void Wrote: Heh, if only she was aware of the thoughts within the mind of the one she was talking to she and who exactly I am she would not have been so imposing and quick to make judgements upon my soul. It nearly offended me until I caught myself and understood the true nature of this occurence.
I doubt this. Christians are obliged to hold a very narrow view (even within the Christian genre, they say the others are wrong--Protestant, Catholic, Mormon, and so on). A big flaw in religions is the thinking that their way is the only way. So it's doubtful she would have seen into your heart and understood.
Christians are also obliged to use complex strategies in order to believe because their religion is bible-based. I have read the whole bible: in general, it is unloving, unforgiving, and horribly violent (if you doubt this, just go to the ten commandments and read the 2 pages following). Christians must rationalize this with a "loving" god. Also, the basic premise that an individual would have to do one thing in order not to burn in hell is so horrible, I don't want to take the time to say what I think of it. It is all nonsensical, and subsequently they use phrases such as, "We can't know why God does this, that." So when the church mandates that the members proselytize, it is an opportunity to convince others, which is a device the mind uses to validate itself. In other words, the act of converting others makes the proselyter feel less doubtful about the nonsense.
So, although I think there may be some Christians who, in part, wish to actually do good by proselytizing, I think the bigger reason is validation, and adherence to a system because they have not awakened to thinking for themselves.
(03-16-2012, 09:23 AM)godwide_void Wrote: Even those who would have been willing to listen or begin to ascribe to the beliefs they offered become turned away by the rude and inconsiderate approach taken by them.
This is actually good. We need to move away from religions to waking up to our own thinking and feeling about the world. So, in a way, we can be thankful that proselytizers are so obnoxious.