03-10-2012, 06:08 AM
(03-09-2012, 07:53 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Ankh,
I really do appreciate your interest.
Here is an excerpt of the post that you made:
I have a thought that service to self beings might have a very profound understanding of the Law of One; that they even might have an extremely deep understanding of that *all* is the Creator/One, but they pursue that understanding from another angle. My thought is that they deeply *within* realize in a way that is very difficult to understand for service to others beings, that serving the self *is* serving all/the Creator. That is just an idea of course. They are of fourth density and beyond, and have no veil. They know way more than us here in third density. And being extremely wise, neither blind or stupid, they still consciously pursue this path, until the "stop sign", by some reason. UNQUOTE
Now, in my interpretation of what you are saying, those who serve the creator via the STS path are not in third density but are already in 4th. And being wiser than us here of thrid density they have realized that STS is a better way to serve the Creator. And then you go to say that they follow that path of STS UNTIL the 'stop sign.'
Thank you for making the distiction between your interpretation of my words and my actual words. I appreciate this kind of communication, Shin'Ar.
Shin'Ar Wrote:It was at this point that I made the remark that you may not have realized the profundity of that statement and how critical it was to the rest of what we have been talking about. I did not mean to be insulting as it may have sounded. I am sure that someone of your enlightened state would agree that it is rare to find others speak in such an enlightened manner.
I was not insulted by your comment, my brother. I got sincerely amused though.
It is rare that I find someone whose vibration match my own to such an extent that we kind of merge in a complete agreement and understanding. I believe that not even those who are of my soulgroup may give such satisfaction, as it is so in this density, so seeking this satisfaction is useless, in my humble opinion (would be sooo awesome though! =)). I *try* to see each as an infinite intelligence, but it is not always easy. I do, or at least trying to, act outwardly as accepting *all* understandings, as I am seriously trying to learn this lesson. So it is my *intention*, but as I said it is not always so easy, as I tend to think sometimes thoughts like: "What a confused seeker this is".
Shin'Ar Wrote:My point is that, the very fact that there is a 'stop sign', where both paths must merge in oder to continue, suggests that there can only be one truly direct path. It is that one path that they must both become that should be the path that we were on in the first place.
Ra said that the service to self path is the path which is not. So I agree. In the mid sixth density, where these paths merge into unity, into oneness, the path becomes one, which is without the polarity. Polarities are harmonized.
The interpretation of this is of course different for each. I see it as the self is now becoming merged into oneness to such an extent that the difference between the self and the other self is not seen anymore.
Shin'Ar Wrote:Dear Ankh, I have taken your advice and read through that Free Will post, and I want to ask you something. How does one that is Light, not shine?
Is this your understanding of the Free Will, Shin'Ar?
Shin'Ar Wrote:I, for the sake of 'buttonholing', could not stop shining just to avoid infringing upon anothers choice to either walk in darkness or walk in light.
The fact that as I tread on the path of Light ahead of them or in proximity to them, and being a Light myself shines on that path, does not mean that I am infringing upon their free will to have maybe chosen the path of darkness instead. It simply means that I, being Light, shone light on the choices that they have to go either way. It simply means that where there may have only seemed to be one path leading into darkness, that now they can see that there are two paths.
Perhaps the differences in our understandings lies in that I believe that each co-Creator is unique and intelligent, and non infringement on Free Will means to me not imposing that which I have to offer on others. I am trying to reach a realization that each is an unique spark of the One Infinite Creator, and to manifest an understanding that each intelligence already knows its path, and what is "right" and/or "wrong" for them, being intelligent.
Shin'Ar Wrote:I could simply stand there and say nothing, if that would somehow avoid infringing upon them. I suppose I could simply wave hello. But they would still see my shining as I go. That I choose to call out to them to show them where I go is not infringement, it is guidance. The lighthouse does not infringe upon a ship's choice to dash itself into the rocks. I do not seek to gather a flock and lure them into seduction. I do not seek to manipulate anyone into following me where I choose to go. Everyone has the choice to go where they will. But out of love and concern for others I choose to call out to them so they can see that there is another way, so that they do not walk into the darkness without knowing. Is it not infringing upon my free will to cry out, if you tell me that I should not do so?
My brother, you do as you are pleased. I do not wish to tell you what you should do or not. Your path is unique and is of infinite worth. I simply offer my understanding/s, as this activity is of learning to me, not teaching. And my understanding is that when one is serving another self from its own personal belief of what is best and right for that other self, this seeker is not serving another self anymore from a STO perspective.
Shin'Ar Wrote:The more important question here Ankh, should be why is it that my Shining offends those who choose the path of darkness? Why is it that, even though all I am doing is is crying out to them and pointing to the path of light so they can see it and know the choice, that they become offended by the revelation?
My belief is that detachment to the outcome while offering teaching/healing/light/love/whatever is what the Free Will is about. To let each choose and believe as they wish. If someone finds what you have to offer interesting they will come to you by their own free will. Those who not, will choose their own, unique path of walking. This is so, because Creator wants to know Itself.
Shin'Ar Wrote:So is it possible for you to explain to me how our Shining becomes an infringement on Free Will?
Have I succeed? /