02-25-2012, 03:19 PM
I find myself in agreement with all that Pablisimo has said, however It seems that he is finding disagreement where there is none, so I really do not know how to continue in this regard.
I think that he believes me affiliated with this hippy group he speak of and it may be causing him to find issue with me there, expecting there to be some because he has issue with them.
With regard to those in this forum who I have had some discussion with, he would have to be familiar with all of those threads. There are reasons why certain issues came to the forefront and became topics of debate. One of those was that some were suggesting that service to self is a good thing, and unless Ra has said this somewhere beyond Book one, I have not seen it, and also if Ra has said that somewhere else, it would be in contradiction to everything that he has said in Book one.
So I would have to ask for a reference that specifically quotes Ra saying that service to self is a good thing, and better than service to others. And I will disagree with you wholeheartedly where you said ,
"I'm perplexed by your return to this topic again and again. The Law of One as given by Ra teaches much the same thing. STS is a valid path to the creator, to a certain point. And since we are One, to serve the Self is to Serve All. STS is service to others, in a sense, it's just heavily distorted. There is no contradiction to what you're saying here that I've found in the Ra Material." UNQUOTE
Again what Ra says is that STO is the same as service to self because the sefl is the All, but that does not work with STS. You must recheck your interpretation of that I assure you. However those who believe that STS is somehow the path they want to walk, have that choice. Yes, they will still evolve into higher awareness and being, but it will be at a far slower pace, and it will result in their being harvested into a world filled with those who seek only to serve theirselves. There is great risk in seeking that path. What you have said here about STS being the same as serving the All is as wrong as anyone can be. Please reconsider the teachings very carefully. Service to self may affect the All, but it is not as beneficial to the All as is STO.
Other than that, with regard to what else was discussed here, it seems that we are in full agreement, except where you seem to believe that I belong to this hippy group that you make mention of. You seem to acknowledge that which I have spoken about truth being the priority regardless of its source, and than you say with the same breath that you cannot accept truth from this Zoroaster. Have you read the Ra material where they specifically state that they have used deception for the purpose of getting through a message? Sometimes the message and getting it through is far more important than the means of delivery.
And I do think it is has been prudent of the Intelligent Energy to devise means of hiding the truth and allowing it to be disseminated in a mysterious fashion. If all the truth offered to humanity had been openly offered in only one source, and that source distorted and corrupted, than all truth would have been lost with it. For that purpose the teachings have been secretly hidden into a myriad of teachings and cultures, using both written and oral records, involving a great deal of symbology and code. Because of this the truth has been revealed to those who have diligently sought after it using discretion and discernment, and following the trail bread crumb by bread crumb.
I hope that you can come to terms with your issues of deception. We have gathered our bread crumbs from sources spanning many distortions and never look back to see how they were packaged.
We wish you a fruitful journey.
I think that he believes me affiliated with this hippy group he speak of and it may be causing him to find issue with me there, expecting there to be some because he has issue with them.
With regard to those in this forum who I have had some discussion with, he would have to be familiar with all of those threads. There are reasons why certain issues came to the forefront and became topics of debate. One of those was that some were suggesting that service to self is a good thing, and unless Ra has said this somewhere beyond Book one, I have not seen it, and also if Ra has said that somewhere else, it would be in contradiction to everything that he has said in Book one.
So I would have to ask for a reference that specifically quotes Ra saying that service to self is a good thing, and better than service to others. And I will disagree with you wholeheartedly where you said ,
"I'm perplexed by your return to this topic again and again. The Law of One as given by Ra teaches much the same thing. STS is a valid path to the creator, to a certain point. And since we are One, to serve the Self is to Serve All. STS is service to others, in a sense, it's just heavily distorted. There is no contradiction to what you're saying here that I've found in the Ra Material." UNQUOTE
Again what Ra says is that STO is the same as service to self because the sefl is the All, but that does not work with STS. You must recheck your interpretation of that I assure you. However those who believe that STS is somehow the path they want to walk, have that choice. Yes, they will still evolve into higher awareness and being, but it will be at a far slower pace, and it will result in their being harvested into a world filled with those who seek only to serve theirselves. There is great risk in seeking that path. What you have said here about STS being the same as serving the All is as wrong as anyone can be. Please reconsider the teachings very carefully. Service to self may affect the All, but it is not as beneficial to the All as is STO.
Other than that, with regard to what else was discussed here, it seems that we are in full agreement, except where you seem to believe that I belong to this hippy group that you make mention of. You seem to acknowledge that which I have spoken about truth being the priority regardless of its source, and than you say with the same breath that you cannot accept truth from this Zoroaster. Have you read the Ra material where they specifically state that they have used deception for the purpose of getting through a message? Sometimes the message and getting it through is far more important than the means of delivery.
And I do think it is has been prudent of the Intelligent Energy to devise means of hiding the truth and allowing it to be disseminated in a mysterious fashion. If all the truth offered to humanity had been openly offered in only one source, and that source distorted and corrupted, than all truth would have been lost with it. For that purpose the teachings have been secretly hidden into a myriad of teachings and cultures, using both written and oral records, involving a great deal of symbology and code. Because of this the truth has been revealed to those who have diligently sought after it using discretion and discernment, and following the trail bread crumb by bread crumb.
I hope that you can come to terms with your issues of deception. We have gathered our bread crumbs from sources spanning many distortions and never look back to see how they were packaged.
We wish you a fruitful journey.
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