(02-05-2012, 03:55 PM)Ecz Wrote:Progress here is indeed vaguely quantifiable. The notion that it is not (or can not be) is part of the subject-object dilemma created from the struggle involved at that 6th subdensity. As subject is emphasized in order to learn about it, "all" seems to be interpreted from that subjective standpoint and therefore objective heirarchies tend to be seen as created from outmoded or even regressive (conventional) consciousness.(02-05-2012, 03:34 PM)turtledude23 Wrote: They're only briefly mentioned and not really defined, from what I understand they're like levels of spiritual evolution within 3D but there's no way to measure it, and each sub-density has an infinite number of sub-sub-densities so as far as I'm concerned there's little point in discussing them.
My thought was just that if the initial sub-densities could be somewhat understood then it might make "progress" at least vaguely quantifiable. Currently I just have little noticeable elements in life to denote progress like how long I can maintain patience within a given situation, etc. Perhaps this is a naive notion? To want "checkpoints" for comparative purposes?
So the "checkpoint" idea will necessarily only make sense from the standpoint of the last subdensity here, which can appreciate the prior development "from the outside".
(02-05-2012, 04:10 PM)turtledude23 Wrote:Again, I am not saying the subdensities *are* something. They are necessarily archetypal in nature and therefore only a pattern of what they may provide emerges from various identifiable collections of ideas and values that exist from the standpoint of "vibration". From our own choosing, we form ideas resonating at the particular level using that logos as something like a template.(02-05-2012, 03:59 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(02-05-2012, 03:19 PM)turtledude23 Wrote: I don't think Ra ever specified what the sub-densities are, where did you get that idea from?The subdensities are discrete levels of 'vibration', just like the ones in the octave. One enters the subdensity that corresponds to the vibration accepted. We have a m/b/s nature. Experience-wise the aspect of the subdensity I was referring to was that 'mind'. 'Mind' emerges into consciousness according to what society has provided as an expression of that subdensity (patterned by the "sub-sub-sub-logos" of earth+inhabitants). These ideas reflect values of that resonate in some manner with that subdensity, because the ideas themselves were formed from evaluation at that vibration.
But where did you get the specific examples of 6th sub-density is this and 7th sub-density is that?