01-20-2012, 01:48 AM
(01-19-2012, 08:58 PM)Diana Wrote:[/quote](01-19-2012, 08:16 PM)Oldern Wrote: You are throwing me a lot of questions, Diana. The majority of those questions are usually thrown when someone behaves in a way that seems to support animal killings (which I do not support at all), animals being treated poorly while trying new medicines on them (which I do not support at all), or places one life above the other (which I did not).
Okay. It just seemed cavalier to say:
"Because some trees and some animals died?"
(01-19-2012, 08:16 PM)Oldern Wrote: What differentiates 3rd density from the densities before it is the presence of Free Will. This has been stated many times in the Law of One and in other places. That obviously means that the FOCUS is in this reality on the 3rd density beings. That does not mean that we get to not love the animals and the plants. It means that we get to choose whether we love them or not.
This sounds like you are saying that 3rd density is only for 3rd density beings, and whoever else is here--2nd and 1st density beings--they don't count. Aren't 2D animals trying to attain 3D here in this density as we are trying to attain 4D?
(01-19-2012, 08:16 PM)Oldern Wrote: You sound like you are trying to blame them for doing what they did.
Not at all. I am not blaming. I don't "believe" everything I read. I question the Ra material when it doesn't make sense. I am questioning that "advanced beings" of the "Condeferation" would make such a blunder with no better way to handle it.
(01-19-2012, 08:16 PM)Oldern Wrote: In this density, our society's maintained free will was so important that they have placed a force field around this planetary sphere to keep the interference to a minimum. Judging by that, it is obvious that the main goal in this planet is to move into 4th density, not to preserve life of 2nd and 1st density beings. If you preserve something, you freeze it, you freeze change itself. That is not healthy to a learning experience, but that is not my point here.
No one is talking about preserving, I am talking about having respect for all life. How about to have compassion? Isn't that the prerequisite of 4th density? Is compassion only for humans? Aren't animals and plants other-selves?
Just to chime in here. My belief is that 2nd density creatures are by and large far more compassionate than 3rd density. Compassion seems to vanish the higher up you go in the system then merging to a entire new platou on the 6th.
My experience is that compassion vanishes as intelligence increases. Only to merge back into the process once intelligence reaches a certain point of "we are all one".
So yes, I believe that the 2D entities more than gladly participated in the experience. But, that being said. What the confederation does to the 2D entities is the confederations choices and their karmic responsibility. What we do to 2D entities is our karmic responsibility.
Personally, I'd suggest we rush the dev of those bio genetic developements that would allow the growth of pure meat in laboratory conditions. If for nothing else than the fact that it would finally free us from the "requirement" of killing animals for food.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_meat
Then again, I'm a big believer in not simply observing suffering but seeking to give people and entities the possibility, if not the probability of, not killing each other for fun.