if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from?

[Bring4th_Austin]

I hope this doesn't come off as argumentative.

I felt 'different' as a child, and learning that I might be a Wanderer helped me to better integrate into society, instead of trying to escape.

Wouldn't true integration be integration on equal ground? Instead of having to separate one's self from a society in order to understand it, wouldn't true acceptance of society and self be viewing society as the same as one's self?

One who supposes they are a wanderer might have thought previously, "How can society be like this? None of this seems right, I really don't feel like I belong here." Then, instead of truly integrating into society, or really, society into self, there's a layer of separation. I'm not really talking about elitism in this case, but rather just separation. "Ah, that's why I feel so out of place...because I am out of place." And so a wanderer gains comfort from the idea that they aren't really part of this society, rather they truly belong somewhere else where they would feel at home.

I don't think all or most 3D natives would feel at home here. It's a density of learning to accept one's self and accept others, which we know is essentially the same thing. The things that we view in society which stir our emotions of isolation, alienation, despair, "home-sickness", "not belonging"...they're things inside of us, and society is merely showing us a reflection of that self we are struggling to accept. Wanderer or 3D native, I feel that the feeling would be the same.

When I look at the various quizzes and descriptions of wanderer identification, sometimes it seems to me like those depression medication commercials. "Are you sad? Do you feel alone? Like you don't belong?" Honestly, I don't know a single person who hasn't felt this way at one point or another.

The only quiz I know of is in Carla's book The Wanderer's Handbook. And I don't think she intended it to be conclusive or authoritative. It's just a fun quiz that might help explain some of the feelings we had growing up. Some of the questions in the quiz, like looking at the stars with a yearning for home, wouldn't be found in a depression quiz.

To me, gazing at the stars is an effective way to gaze upon the Creator. That yearning for home could be felt in a 3D native yearning to return to the Creator, in Ra's terms. Gazing upon the infinite outer may create a calling to gaze upon the infinite inner, which would be felt in both wanderers and 3D natives.

Of course it wouldn't be found in a depression quiz...that's not really what I meant. I mean the medication commercials always seem to ask such ambiguous questions that everyone would relate to at some point or another, not the same exact questions you'd find in a wanderer quiz.

Also, in relation to plenum's descriptions of 4D, 5D, 6D wanderers, how can we tell someone is a wanderer from that density and not a 3D native who is working in those energy centers, reached that level of spiritual awareness, or wants to be different?

Maybe someone can help me understand?

I don't think we can know for sure. I think a good indication is that, for Wanderers, a lot of the concepts seem like just remembering something we already knew; whereas, for natives, it's learning it for the first time. That's the feeling I have anyway.

Isn't learning something just remembering it anyways? If we exist as infinity in potentiation, whether it's a wanderer remembering concepts from their home density or a 3D native discovering those concepts through working with catalyst, it would all simply be discovering a part of oneself which was always there.

Also, Ra says that if a 3D native had activated certain energy centers in a past lifetime then they are more easily activated in subsequent lifetimes. It could be the same as a wanderer remembering.

Another trait that may be prevalent among Wanderers is an understanding of Oneness; Wanderers seem able to understand that all the world's religions are basically saying the same thing, and aren't stuck in identifying with only one culture or religion. For example, an evangelical Christian generally thinks that "only Christians go to heaven" and Christianity is the "true" religion etc. They might be totally loving an quite harvestable, but still locked into that separatist thinking. That's just where they're at.

We know wanderers get lost too and can be susceptible to the same separatist thinking that a 3D native would be susceptible to since both have a think veil. I believe a 3D native who has embraced universal love would just as easily divorce that separatist thinking as a wanderer.

One friend in particular, is 100% Bible believer, yet his understanding of the essence of the Law of One is profound. He has managed to find the golden nuggets of the Law of One in his chosen religion. I believe he is a Wanderer who chose to incarnate as a mainstream Christian, so that he can share the Law of One with those in that subculture. He chose this incarnation quite strategically!

For arguments sake, let's pretend we're talking about someone in very similar circumstances as your friend, but who isn't your friend, just to have an objective ground.

Couldn't he also be a 3D native who came near harvestability in the past and chose to incarnate into a religion to help discern the idea of universal love within those biases so that he could reach harvestability? Sharing obviously hand-in-hand with activating blue, something possible for both 3D natives and Wanderers.

Ron Paul is another example of someone who doesn't have the classic, telltale signs of Wanderer - he isn't New Age or any of that stuff - but nevertheless has Wanderer written all over his face, because of the depth of his understanding.

I don't think a native would have such depth, when they are learning the concepts for the first time. It's lovely to observe them opening up their hearts for the very first time...so beautiful!

This is exactly the sort of thinking I'm trying to pinpoint and bring up. You unintentionally set Wanderers above 3D natives by saying that, since Ron Paul has depth of understanding, he must be a wanderer. This is implying that 3D natives are not capable of that depth of understanding. As if wanderers are innately able to dig deeper, reach a higher level of acceptance, and become more enlightened than the "average 3D Joe." I feel like if this level of acceptance weren't possible in 3D natives as well as wanderers, harvestability would not be possible. The requirements for a wanderer and a 3D native to be harvested are the same, and we know that wandering is a dangerous game because they don't always make it to harvestability, while some 3D natives do.

Recognizing that we're Wanderers needn't be any sort of ego trip. We're not 'better' and I don't like to think in terms of 'more evolved' because that can lead to inflated egos and feelings of separation. I prefer to think in terms of just being older siblings.

We can remove the idea of an ego trip and just examine the idea of viewing one as separate from the rest. And I'm definitely not saying that everyone who feels they are wanderers is using this as a method of escapism. I'm just proposing that it can be used as a cop out to accept this society. If we have to metaphorically remove ourselves from society in order to accept it, are we really accepting it?