What is the value of faith?

[Ankh]

Faith and an open heart, right?

Not sure. I imagine that those of the negative persuasion are able to employ faith in order to access intelligent infinity despite a certain closed-ness of the heart.

Good point! Didn't consider those of negative polarity.

I understood it as an intention which is "honed" through the desire to the will, which then opens the gateway.

Interesting! Those were just my first impressions. With that particular statement, I was thinking there must be some intention on the part of the seeker to acknowledge the connection to the divine.

You mean faith?

The "upreaching", as I've understood it, is the energy of the intelligent infinity that is "ceaselessly and infinitely" moves through our physical and energy mind/body complexes (which I called "everpresent" in my post). The open heart is the key to further "upreaching".

Yes, I can see what you are saying. I am basing the view I offered on a particular type of experience. What I had in mind was that sort of sick, anxious feeling I experience in my abdomen when I view suffering which could be my own suffering, or that of an other self. I experience this particular energy which arises from the witnessing of suffering as has having a sort of tendency to move upwards in the mind/body/spirit complex. I can actually feel it moving upwards- so this is what I was referring to as the "upreaching".

I think that I understand what you are saying here, and based on that "I think"-understanding, I wonder if not that energy that I called "everpresent" is that energy that would climb up with ease, was it not for the blockages in our "receptors" of this energy, i.e. energy centers. So this awaits catalysts in order for our physical and energy bodies to open up our centers. Like in an analogy of the flower which is reaching up, to the sun, we also have this desire to reach up, but in potential. When we discover this desire, it becomes a conscious intention, which is then "honed" through the desire to will. But before that one must of course reach the key, which is working through the first three centers, in order to open up the heart center.

Will activates the process of intention reaching the indigo ray center, if that is our deep desire, right? That is when the gateway to the intelligent infinity is opened.

I am not sure. It seemed to me like they were saying that intelligent infinity can work through any of the rays alone, or in combination. But I am having a hard time imagining that indigo wouldn't be involved to some degree.

Oh, you mean like when the gateway has already been opened? When the upspiraling energy meets the downpouring energy, and then takes its rest in either green, blue or indigo center?

I am of an understanding that the intelligent infinity is always present in the heart, if that would be open. But then, it takes more to it, to open the gateway, and depending upon entity's desire and will, it can find its rest in other nexi as well, but those of the above location. I am speaking of positive entities here, since the negative ones open this gateway using combination of the centers below the heart, which are orange and yellow ray, so it must be different for them.

The locus wherein that energy rests after being called through the gateway is quite dependent upon the nature of the desire that has been shaped into a very active willing.

Is that the resting place that you've meant?

Yes.

I thought that it was desire and will of the entity that was decisive where the resting place for that energy would be? Based of the Q'uo quote above and below...

In the case of a healer, the resting locus of that inspiration from above would be the green-ray chakra. /.../ If the desire is for communication, then the energy through the gateway shall meet and mate with the upward spiraling love/light of the infinite One in the blue-ray chakra. /.../ When a seeker desires to move into a higher state of being which refrains from or has no use for action but rather wishes to rest in radiance of being, the energy through the gateway shall meet the personal energy of the seeker in the indigo-ray chakra and remain there, resting in that chakra whose very essence is faith.