(01-08-2012, 10:35 AM)ShinAr Wrote: And now the true Yossarian shines through. Such pertinent thought process.
You know of your design, and would like to fulfill it but you feel that the mystery of the time-frame is unfair. You feel that you are forced to choose between leaping from the leaf or remaining here forever, and your impatience is causing you frustration. What would be 'natural human behavior' in your mind Yossarian? A written invitation and date of event would solve your problem would it not?
Yeah probably. Just because I believe in the present and want to recognize the value of the present doesn't mean I reject change. I'm open to natural change.
Quote:The Ancient Schools have provided you with the invitation but not the date of the event and this causes you suffering. So much so that even when you understand the natural process and design, you still view it as a preemptive strike on the future that invades your sense of what is fair and reasonable. Or as you have colorfully put it, 'you feel like a Siamese twin torn from the womb before its time.' Or would feel that way if you did not calm that frustration by convincing yourself that there is no need to lean toward the Light at all, and that you think it is perfectly acceptable to simply look no further ahead than the here and now and enjoy the flesh and all that it has to offer.
The invitation has no date but it does have a dress code, and taking off my curent clothes feels a lot like dying.
Quote:My obvious question to you than is this:
How long Yossarian? How many times shall you reincarnate before you do begin to desire something new?
Just because you are not aware of how many times you have already been through this cycle of darkness, does not mean that you cannot consider this question of how many times you think would be too many. A thousand? A million maybe? A trillion?
Do you see what I mean my friend? Nobody is expecting you to have to leap from a leaf without wings, just because you cannot wait for the process to fulfill itself. But once you have those wings, there will be a point in time that you are supposed to flee from the cycle of the leaf and begin a new experience. How long ? How many times do you think would be fair to allow you to come to terms with having wings?
Do not blame the Mystery Schools for your impatience. They are only the messenger, despite their problems.
One last question. What affect would knowing that you still had one hundred reincarnations to go through before you could transcend have on your impatience?
Well, it's pretty hard to answer your questions. I just woke up from a dream of sitting in a stalled car in the snow while a cloud of thick black smoke covers the sky. So if you're familiar with Wilcock's dream symbols you can see how this all seems pretty dire to me, whichever way I go. I'm trying to see the divinity in the suffering, in the internal conflict.
Gnosis that I had 1oo incarnations to go, would be disappointing but also a comfort I guess.
The Ra Material and people like Wilcock or Drunvalo stress the DEADLINE. Wilcock does give a specific date: December 21st. Drunvalo gives many dates of course. Many "teachers" push us to strive harder before "soon" comes. So, like many of my steps on this path, the 100 incarnation revelation would be heartbreaking. But also comforting because it pushes back the DEADLINE and gives me more time to change clothing.
And by the way, I read the Ra material as saying that striving is counterproductive, hence my earlier post to you about striving. What is your take on striving?