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[yossarian]

Let me ask you, if you had the choice to fly like a bird through the mountaintops, or to only see the mountaintops from the ground level, why you would choose to remain at ground level?

If you were given the chance to soar into the universe and experience the stars, but you had to give up your human form in order to do this, why would cling to your human form and give up the chance to enjoy higher experiences?

You speak of this spirit/flesh combination as though there is no evolution from one into the other. Do you believe that the state of being that you now experience is the highest form of being that there is to experience? if you believe that the human form you now have cannot be improved upon or evolve into a higher being, than I can understand why you believe the way that you do. To you transforming the flesh into something Sacred means enjoying it as it is without any desire to evolve or strive toward higher being. Is that how you and Ankh view the human experience?

That's not how I see it at all. Most of us on this forum see ourselves as Wanderers. Certainly in my case the sense of "descent" is palpable. I feel like a fallen angel, a wandering star. Wanderers are those who chose earth life after living in higher forms of life.

Let me ask you, if you had the choice to fly like a bird through the mountaintops, or to only see the mountaintops from the ground level, why you would choose to remain at ground level?

I honestly believe I would fly for awhile, and it would great, but then later there is a non-zero chance that I would grow tired of my flight and I would want to see the mountains from the point of view of a mountain troll or a billy goat.

After 10,000 incarnations as a Bald Eagle wouldn't you want to see how the meerkat views the world?

Look at human hobbies. People will re-enact the civil war for pleasure. People will play videogames where they pretend to be Middle Age peasants or stone age barbarians. People watch movies where the main character is tortured, gets lost, loses everything, whatever.

In our spare time, humans create stories and we project ourselves into them. We enter into a "lower" reality for pleasure. I play videogames where I pretend to be an Orc or some primitive person in some primitive era without technology or comforts. I get drawn into the story and to some small extent believe I'm really in it.

That is no different than human life. When I become an angel, won't I still love stories? Do angels have hobbies? Do they dress up like humans and make believe that they have no wings?

What is the purpose of creation in the first place? Aren't we already omnipotent? Why should I strive for omnipotence if I already have it?

Obviously my omnipotent, omniscient self chose to experience this reality as it is, in precisely this way, otherwise I'm not omnipotent, omniscient, and infinite.

Oh ye of little faith Do you not know that there is nothing to strive for aside from striving itself? You love to strive, that's why you chose your beliefs regarding striving. I can tell you love to strive or you, The Infinite Creator, would have never chosen to strive for enlightenment the way you do. You, The Infinite Creator, have convinced yourself that there is something to work toward. It's just a game, Lord, and you're just playing, as you type these words into the keyboard, you are just playing the game you created.

So play, keep striving, or if you've had enough striving, then stop striving. I think maybe you've had enough.

Ah Yossarian,

Now I see the factor which differentiates our thinking. Is it possible for you to imagine what amazing possibilities may be awaiting you in the vast expanse of the universe. You are thinking in terms of the universe having nothing more to offer out there than what you can experience here on earth. I cannot fathom a mind that thinks as though it would become bored of the Mystery of the Cosmos. Certainly one may choose to relive past experiences that they enjoyed, but you must be able to comprehend that the possibilities 'OUT THERE' are so vast and innumerable that one might never find the time to return to the past enjoyments, being fully engaged in amazing new discoveries.

To suggest that, in the expanses of the universe, one might become bored, is beyond my ability to comprehend. After a million incarnations as a human, bound to the flesh, I would excitedly leap at the chance to experience a reality unrestricted by the confines of the flesh. Yes, I may choose to reacquaint myself with this experience of fleshly enjoyments, but to suppose that I would become bored with a playground the size of the universe and find nothing better to do is ludicrous. Many of us return to the experience of the musclecar for the nostalgia, but there is not a chance that they would turn down the opportunity to drive a Ferrari. I think your outlook is such that you are not aware of the Ferrari that awaits you around the corner.

Returning to the incarnation of the flesh may also be a deliberate choice for the sake of returning to your fellow man to assist them in realizing that the Ferrari is around the corner, but that choice in no way means that you have become bored with the many possibilities that lay around that corner. We must fully open our imaginations to the possibilities Yosarrio.

It's quite the trap The Universe has set for us isn't it? We're told to abandon the simple pleasures of the simple fleshy life in order to strive for the future Ferrari. The flesh cries in agony when its survival programming is overridden.

Do you have some kind of timetable in mind for us, for humans in general maybe? I am onboard with a natural process of evolution : I'm willing to be the caterpillar who builds a cocoon. I don't want to be the caterpillar who jumps out of the tree and hopes that his wings will grow before hitting the ground. I don't see how this is natural human behaviour.

The mystery schools are hacking this world are they not? Through tremendous will or insight, the adept rips open the veil and shoves himself through like a baby born through Caesarian. Is there a natural childbirth that the less adventurous among us can have? Or those of us whose bodies cling to survival, our bodies fearfully and disapprovingly watching the life and death game we are playing?

Is there such a thing as transmution or graceful transformation rather the feeling like a Siamese twin being cut apart?

Just some of my musings. I find the spiritual path heartbreaking and violent. Maybe you have some comment.