(01-06-2012, 01:09 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Let me ask you, if you had the choice to fly like a bird through the mountaintops, or to only see the mountaintops from the ground level, why you would choose to remain at ground level?
If you were given the chance to soar into the universe and experience the stars, but you had to give up your human form in order to do this, why would cling to your human form and give up the chance to enjoy higher experiences?
You speak of this spirit/flesh combination as though there is no evolution from one into the other. Do you believe that the state of being that you now experience is the highest form of being that there is to experience? if you believe that the human form you now have cannot be improved upon or evolve into a higher being, than I can understand why you believe the way that you do. To you transforming the flesh into something Sacred means enjoying it as it is without any desire to evolve or strive toward higher being. Is that how you and Ankh view the human experience?
That's not how I see it at all. Most of us on this forum see ourselves as Wanderers. Certainly in my case the sense of "descent" is palpable. I feel like a fallen angel, a wandering star. Wanderers are those who chose earth life after living in higher forms of life.
(01-06-2012, 01:09 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Let me ask you, if you had the choice to fly like a bird through the mountaintops, or to only see the mountaintops from the ground level, why you would choose to remain at ground level?
I honestly believe I would fly for awhile, and it would great, but then later there is a non-zero chance that I would grow tired of my flight and I would want to see the mountains from the point of view of a mountain troll or a billy goat.
After 10,000 incarnations as a Bald Eagle wouldn't you want to see how the meerkat views the world?
Look at human hobbies. People will re-enact the civil war for pleasure. People will play videogames where they pretend to be Middle Age peasants or stone age barbarians. People watch movies where the main character is tortured, gets lost, loses everything, whatever.
In our spare time, humans create stories and we project ourselves into them. We enter into a "lower" reality for pleasure. I play videogames where I pretend to be an Orc or some primitive person in some primitive era without technology or comforts. I get drawn into the story and to some small extent believe I'm really in it.
That is no different than human life. When I become an angel, won't I still love stories? Do angels have hobbies? Do they dress up like humans and make believe that they have no wings?
What is the purpose of creation in the first place? Aren't we already omnipotent? Why should I strive for omnipotence if I already have it?
Obviously my omnipotent, omniscient self chose to experience this reality as it is, in precisely this way, otherwise I'm not omnipotent, omniscient, and infinite.
Oh ye of little faith
Do you not know that there is nothing to strive for aside from striving itself? You love to strive, that's why you chose your beliefs regarding striving. I can tell you love to strive or you, The Infinite Creator, would have never chosen to strive for enlightenment the way you do. You, The Infinite Creator, have convinced yourself that there is something to work toward. It's just a game, Lord, and you're just playing, as you type these words into the keyboard, you are just playing the game you created.So play, keep striving, or if you've had enough striving, then stop striving. I think maybe you've had enough.
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