11-10-2009, 12:39 PM
Gentlemen,
Try as I might, I am still unable to find the concept of various secret bases realistic in the face of everything else I know to be true about the world, and so be it. I hope they are discovered some day, because it would tighten the shoe laces of the Ra material that much more for me were they found. All is as it should be. All is well.
I did want to comment on one thing however,
And it's really just an observation on my part. I am familiar with organized western religions to a degree, and more so with those who read their scripture as every word being (and needing to be) literally true. This causes a lot of trouble because many parts of the bible contradict each other. The solution to this problem often is reinterpreting the words and statements so that the paradoxes are resolved.
Now then, interpreting anything is subjective in itself, there is no absolute right or wrong, so it can be a slippery thing to wrangle with in a debate / discussion. (this is my risk
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However at least from my perspective, the above two quotes, although subjective interpretations in their own right and for all we know perhaps correct, seems to me to be skewing the meaning of what was intended so that it better fits in to pre-existing beliefs. Was Don surprised about being 1-upped by Ra with new information, or just about the information? Is this not obvious...?
Perhaps I could validate Ra's statements about Moon bases by supposing there is an island in the pacific somewhere called "Moon", and that it has a secret military base on it? That would certainly work better for me. But of course I don't suppose that's what Ra was saying when he said "moon bases".
Where do these interpretations stem from, why are they needed? Is there a need (forgive me if I am dead wrong, it looks this way to me) for the Ra contact to be 100% absolutely correct in everything that was communicated, even for the extremely fringe material where 100% accuracy is not needed, i.e. government secrets? It would seem to indicate that if Ra were indeed proven wrong it would mean something detrimental regarding the remaining non-transient information to some? Perhaps instead of adhering to one source for spiritual information as the absolute truth it would be helpful to cast a larger net out in to the spiritual world to see what the rest of creation has to say on the topic?
Try as I might, I am still unable to find the concept of various secret bases realistic in the face of everything else I know to be true about the world, and so be it. I hope they are discovered some day, because it would tighten the shoe laces of the Ra material that much more for me were they found. All is as it should be. All is well.
I did want to comment on one thing however,
(11-09-2009, 11:25 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: I want to address the question of Don's incredulity. I think what he was truly amazed by was that such a program could have been kept secret for so long, and secret even from him. My guess is that he prided himself on being well-connected and well-informed (wasn't he in the military before becoming a commercial pilot?) and the idea that he would not have had a hint of such a mind-boggling secret struck him as literally incredible.
(11-10-2009, 02:51 AM)Questioner Wrote: Now that makes a lot more sense to me: that his surprise was not that such things could exist, but that they could have "flown under the radar," so to speak, of his own investigations.
And it's really just an observation on my part. I am familiar with organized western religions to a degree, and more so with those who read their scripture as every word being (and needing to be) literally true. This causes a lot of trouble because many parts of the bible contradict each other. The solution to this problem often is reinterpreting the words and statements so that the paradoxes are resolved.
Now then, interpreting anything is subjective in itself, there is no absolute right or wrong, so it can be a slippery thing to wrangle with in a debate / discussion. (this is my risk
)However at least from my perspective, the above two quotes, although subjective interpretations in their own right and for all we know perhaps correct, seems to me to be skewing the meaning of what was intended so that it better fits in to pre-existing beliefs. Was Don surprised about being 1-upped by Ra with new information, or just about the information? Is this not obvious...?
Perhaps I could validate Ra's statements about Moon bases by supposing there is an island in the pacific somewhere called "Moon", and that it has a secret military base on it? That would certainly work better for me. But of course I don't suppose that's what Ra was saying when he said "moon bases".
Where do these interpretations stem from, why are they needed? Is there a need (forgive me if I am dead wrong, it looks this way to me) for the Ra contact to be 100% absolutely correct in everything that was communicated, even for the extremely fringe material where 100% accuracy is not needed, i.e. government secrets? It would seem to indicate that if Ra were indeed proven wrong it would mean something detrimental regarding the remaining non-transient information to some? Perhaps instead of adhering to one source for spiritual information as the absolute truth it would be helpful to cast a larger net out in to the spiritual world to see what the rest of creation has to say on the topic?