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    Thread: Unbelievable moonbases and wrong science


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    11-05-2009, 08:56 PM
    (11-05-2009, 12:55 PM)Questioner Wrote: One theory, from Don Elkins' book Secrets of the UFO, is that "UFOnauts" are telling the truth about their experience in some kind of alternate universe, alternate timeline, or different plane or density of reality than ours. Elkins speculated earlier in the book that densities co-exist because each has a different distance between the atomic nucleus and its electron shells. He described the situation in physics as similar to multiple TV transmissions which could be tuned in with a receiver.
    Regardless of the 'physics', this has the conceptual merit of being:
    1. consistent with a veil being in place
    2. consistent with information regarding differences in perception associated with both each entities unique perception of 'reality' based on how much 'channel intermingling' an entity is able to perceive.
    3. consistent with the idea of oneness and non-oneness being an illusion.

    (11-05-2009, 12:55 PM)Questioner Wrote: A second possibility that Elkins described is that UFO's, for instance, are sometimes metaphysical and do not have physical reality in our experience; unless they choose to have it. If the point is to get attention while leaving open free will, sometimes the UFO's will deliberately choose just enough physical reality to remain ambiguous. The purpose is to provide an increased opportunity for people to draw their own conclusions based on faith. If I remember right, Handbook for a New Paradigm also discusses this concept.

    Here is a related reference from llresearch transcripts [The Law of One, Book V, Session 84, Fragment 43]. The relevant portions are at the top and the last Ra comment, which in itself is interesting. Roughly stated, it seems that the way metaphysical experiences are consciously interpreted varies depending on the entity in question, the manner of which is the stuff of 'science-fiction'. i.e. if a being from another dimension were to appear in front of an entity who was in no way prepared for the event [i.e. violation of free will ... to choose to experience a veil (which includes veiling things like interdimensional beings ... and there I believe is the interesting fruit regarding the veil ...)].

    (11-05-2009, 12:55 PM)Questioner Wrote: A third theory is that reports about concepts such as moon bases are literally accurate in our own scientifically measurable reality, but are concealed by political conspiracies. This is a popular topic on the Internet these days, isn't it!
    Paradox and mystery abound ... what to believe, what to believe ... or sometimes what not to believe ... always our choice ... the convenient information spoon fed by television, or that we find on our own ... The seeking is always interesting, and just a little maddening (especially when you accept surface truths too deeply without personal exploration) ...

    (11-05-2009, 12:55 PM)Questioner Wrote: A fourth possibility is that "bad news" material is not true, but is an interjection by negative entities who use fear to build their own service-to-self hierarchies.
    And so ... the truth shall set you free?

    (11-05-2009, 12:55 PM)Questioner Wrote: A fifth is that "bad news" is just one potential future outcome. If we have enough positivity as a species, the bad news won't happen.
    Positivity ... shared hope/belief [i.e. not armegeddon, but forgiveness, acceptance, equanimity, etc.?] :-)

    (11-05-2009, 12:55 PM)Questioner Wrote: A sixth is that the sources of the channeled messages are just plain confused, as if we looked out the window and thought a rustling tree branch was a person but nobody was there.
    I think 500 monkeys banging on keyboards coming up with the entire works of shakespeare by accident would be almost as likely ...

    (11-05-2009, 12:55 PM)Questioner Wrote: And a seventh is that the alleged channeling is a conscious or unconscious artifact of the recipient's confusion. If the channeler happened to watch Star Trek last night while eating curry, they might rant about pepper-powered phasers tonight. This in turn could either be a deliberate lie of a conscious manipulator, or some kind of mental illness of a hallucination. Secrets itself has quotes from UFO sources claiming that some human UFO reports are nothing but hallucinations without any meaning.

    Each of these causes of "unbelievable" reports such as moon bases leads to a different interpretation. Some interpretations leave the sources as credible, some leave the moon bases as true, some both, some neither.
    This seems related to your first supposition above above, see reference.

    Interesting...

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    Unbelievable moonbases and wrong science - by Questioner - 11-05-2009, 12:55 PM
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