(01-14-2009, 08:21 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: This may need to be its own thread, but I disagree about the seriousness of what happened at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Ra says that those who were destroyed by the energy release found their spirit complexes "to be completely disarranged without possibility of re-integration."
To me, that doesn't sound like the loss of just one lifetime's experiences.
When Don asks if the fact that Ra is able to reintegrate souls who die by nuclear energy release makes it no more traumatic than death by a bullet, Ra says no, it would be more traumatic. But the entity would remain an entity.
I read that to mean that absent Ra's reintegration of the destroyed spirit complex, the entity would no longer be an entity.
In a like vein, Ra says that some of our weapons "redound to the last echoes of potential destruction."
Hi βαθμιαίος (I could use some help with the pronunciation here),
I'm not really sure if there's anything to disagree about. I never meant to imply that it wasn't a serious issue. Indeed, I agree that Ra indicated that without their help the spirit complexes would have been disintegrated.
There is, as is frequently the case with Ra, some room for interpretation of what exactly he meant by the phrase "unique vibratory complex you have called the spirit complex, which we understand as a mind/body/spirit complex" when he refers to what was "completely disarranged" by the blast. To me, this is addressing the spirit complex that is a portion of the Higher Self and is tied into the unique 3D mind/body of that incarnation. This gets into an entirely different discussion about the relationship between the Higher Self, or ageless spirit and the "spirit" of an incarnational instance of the Higher Self. Some people believe that they are one in the same, I am of the opinion that there are a number of spirits, simultaneously at various levels of spiritual evolution distinct from the spirit of the 3D mind/body/spirit complex and the Higher self. Distinct from, yet wholely conatined in the Higher Self. (Sorry, if this is getting rather esoteric).
As a simple example of why I feel this way, I find it absolutely incomprehensible that the Higher Self would be remotely affected by it's 3D incarnation's proximity to a nuclear bomb. Thus, we are left with the question "what is the 'spirit' portion of the 3D mind/body/spirit complex that would have been disintegrated"? I bellieve that it is just that, a spirit fragment or holographic instance of that portion of the Higher Self that is appropriate for the incarnation. Hence my analogy to losing all the work of a single semester in college if that spirit is disintegrated. On another level, it's a moot question since we do have those of the Confederation and Ra looking out for us, just in case our worldly leaders get too aggresive with the Bomb or some other human made application of Intellegent Energy.
I would be delighted, however, to continue this in it's own thread if you'd like to have further dialog.
All the best,
3D sunset