11-23-2011, 03:54 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-23-2011, 03:58 PM by Ens Entium.)
About the idea of there needing to be a creative potential so there can be something that is manifest, remember that assumptions want to be minized. Invoking a 'creative potential' is substantiating the first unsubstantiated thing with another similarly unsubstantiated thing. The same where's why's, how's etc crop up again
For me, it was a situation of being fortunate about my religion of birth- god was said to be an infinte being. This allowed to investigate along a string of metaphysical ideas that stem from a basis of infinity, finally clarified with the Ra material. It's a matter of realising that unlike the materialist I am not ignoring puzzle pieces and that as I've come to understand it, the puzzle pieces cannot fit together any other way but to necessitate and origin of infinity.
There are atheists with spiritual integrity, my friend is a shining example. To say that they are failing to acknowledge that they are the negativity in the world is a bit too much of a stretch for me.
I think it's just like any other denial of the true nature of things like illness or loss or some such thing that is there for the purpose of focusing the attention in a certain way.
For the atheist's sake... Well, not every atheist, let me cheat and say those who really want to apply discernment. Which I think is a decent number among them. The OBE is just like any piece of evidence of a phenomenon.
If one, from within a materialistic view says that 'no such non-physical phenomena are possible because my idea set dictates such' the OBE is counter-example. It only takes on counter-example. It now becomes a piece of the puzzle.
For me, it was a situation of being fortunate about my religion of birth- god was said to be an infinte being. This allowed to investigate along a string of metaphysical ideas that stem from a basis of infinity, finally clarified with the Ra material. It's a matter of realising that unlike the materialist I am not ignoring puzzle pieces and that as I've come to understand it, the puzzle pieces cannot fit together any other way but to necessitate and origin of infinity.
There are atheists with spiritual integrity, my friend is a shining example. To say that they are failing to acknowledge that they are the negativity in the world is a bit too much of a stretch for me.
I think it's just like any other denial of the true nature of things like illness or loss or some such thing that is there for the purpose of focusing the attention in a certain way.
For the atheist's sake... Well, not every atheist, let me cheat and say those who really want to apply discernment. Which I think is a decent number among them. The OBE is just like any piece of evidence of a phenomenon.
If one, from within a materialistic view says that 'no such non-physical phenomena are possible because my idea set dictates such' the OBE is counter-example. It only takes on counter-example. It now becomes a piece of the puzzle.