11-23-2011, 01:50 PM
(11-23-2011, 12:59 PM)Icaro Wrote:(11-23-2011, 12:36 PM)Diana Wrote: The subatomic world of quantum physics is a link to explaining that there is an immenseness out there that cannot be explained in 3D. It may not explain "God" and I wouldn't use that word (I personally do not like it); maybe not "Creator" either. But how about the "unmanifested" universe? The field of potential that is infinite.
Many skeptics and rationalists acknowledge infinity as a valid concept except that it has no inherent meaning, or that consciousness has no divine nature attached to it. I find the latter part to be a very hollow argument, in that consciousness would then have no reason to come into existence. Processes could simply be carried out with no witness, no conscious observer.
Good points. But the observer (or some sort of direction/focus/intention) is needed to manifest from the infinite potential. This is where you can lead the discussion from infinite potential to a prime instance of manifestation.
David Bohm's Wholeness and the Implicate Order talks about the implicate and explicate (unmanifest and manifest) universe. The idea that there is an explicate universe presupposes that some intention or focus caused something explicate.