11-20-2011, 10:48 AM
(11-16-2011, 10:43 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(11-16-2011, 10:36 PM)yossarian Wrote:(11-16-2011, 10:19 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(11-16-2011, 09:42 PM)yossarian Wrote: Life isn't fair, creation isn't fair, none of it is fair.Life, creation, all of it is 100% fair and fool-proof. Circumstantial comparisons and the imagination allow it to be seen as unfair, where "unfair" = "what I think I don't want vs what I think should be".
If you stop using conventional word definitions and understandings, it's possible to argue anything.
Humans consider it unfair when one person is born to poverty while another is born to wealth. This is a human definition, this is widely regarded as unfair by humans, therefore from our perspective unfairness exists.
From the ultimate perspective everything looks fair, but that ultimate perspective does not answer the human question about unfairness.
Basically I think you're context switching with this comment. Context switching can cause a lot of confusion and appear antagonistic. Of course, Zen masters don't mind causing confusion.
I'm a human and think it's all fair. So, guess you'd be wrong. From your perspective, it's not fair, from mine it is. Not sure how there has to be an argument, but Yoss arians like to identify with the mass mind.
It seems both fairness and unfairness require manipulation of the mind to reach.
Does one method of manipulation apply a more "true" perception than the other?
My guess is no.