10-25-2009, 03:29 PM
Carrie, I've never been personally involved in receiving any channeled messages. I was looking more for ways to select, appreciate and evaluate messages that other people have channeled.
Personally, my feeling is that Carla's work is, far and away, the most resonant and helpful for me. However, I wanted to not just rely on my feeling, but use my mind in this sorting process as well. I thought about what is different about her work, and that challenge at the beginning of the process certainly stands out as distinctive. So that is where I started my participation on this forum.
One way I wanted to do this was to look at the intention the channeler uses, before channeling starts. I apologize for any confusion from my not explaining where I was coming from.
As far as I know, Carla's challenge happened before she entered the trance state. Once she accepted Ra, the Ra message, including the format you mentioned, came about without involvement of Carla's conscious mind. That format helps to clarify things in all the ways you mentioned, but it was not part of Carla's conscious choice so I wonder how it could be applied to other channelers?
As far as I know, Carla's challenge about the highest and best standard she knew - the love of Christ - remains unique among channelers, although any channeler could choose any time to use such a standard before their own next contact.
I think I've seen all of the reasons you mentioned in the Ra material, or Carla's conscious communications, except for one: the secret key concept. I know what this means in terms of computer security, but I don't recall having seen the term used with channeling before. Can you give an example from the Ra books?
Monica, your comments about intention are helpful to me. One of my favorite examples of intention in communication comes from a famous advertising writer,Gary Halbert. Here is a passage from one of his newsletters (http://thegaryhalbertletter.com/Newslett...g_idea.htm):
That's a humorous way to put it, but it makes the point. For Carla's challenge and Ra's response, I also feel that the words were chosen with precision, but what is even more important is the resonance of the intention.
Monica, as long as you see this discussion as helpful for those learning from Carla's work, I'd like it to continue. If you feel there's not much more to say about this without drifting away from Carla's work, I'll respect your judgement about when the thread has run its course.
Personally, my feeling is that Carla's work is, far and away, the most resonant and helpful for me. However, I wanted to not just rely on my feeling, but use my mind in this sorting process as well. I thought about what is different about her work, and that challenge at the beginning of the process certainly stands out as distinctive. So that is where I started my participation on this forum.
One way I wanted to do this was to look at the intention the channeler uses, before channeling starts. I apologize for any confusion from my not explaining where I was coming from.
As far as I know, Carla's challenge happened before she entered the trance state. Once she accepted Ra, the Ra message, including the format you mentioned, came about without involvement of Carla's conscious mind. That format helps to clarify things in all the ways you mentioned, but it was not part of Carla's conscious choice so I wonder how it could be applied to other channelers?
As far as I know, Carla's challenge about the highest and best standard she knew - the love of Christ - remains unique among channelers, although any channeler could choose any time to use such a standard before their own next contact.
I think I've seen all of the reasons you mentioned in the Ra material, or Carla's conscious communications, except for one: the secret key concept. I know what this means in terms of computer security, but I don't recall having seen the term used with channeling before. Can you give an example from the Ra books?
Quote:A full discussion of all the various protocols used by other channeled sources is beyond the scope of this discussion (or this forum for that matter), but I think we can all agree that Carla's (and Don's and Jim's) attempt to keep the contact pure was exemplary! And now we are able to enjoy the fruits of their efforts: The Law of One! (and subsequent channeled works as well.)
Monica, your comments about intention are helpful to me. One of my favorite examples of intention in communication comes from a famous advertising writer,Gary Halbert. Here is a passage from one of his newsletters (http://thegaryhalbertletter.com/Newslett...g_idea.htm):
Quote:One day you're in an important business meeting. Unbeknownst to you, your wife has gone into labor. Your mother is desperately trying to use her cell phone and page you... but... the god of cell phones and beepers (being the fickle prick he is) won't let your mother's call get through to your beeper. To make matters worse, she can't even find a coin pay phone anywhere in the hospital. In the meantime, your wife has had triplets!
The god of cell phones and beepers (again, being the fickle prick he is) does let your mother use the cell phone to get through to me (your close friend) and she tells me about the births. Naturally, I burst into your meeting room and tell you the news, "Buckwheat, your wife just had triplets!" Or I might say, "Hey, I just got a call from your mother and she says your wife has given birth to three girls!" Or I could say, "Look you guys, I'm sorry to interrupt your meeting... but... I just got a call from Buckwheat's mother and his wife has just delivered triplets!"
Is There Any Way In The World I Could
Use Words To Tell You Your Wife Has
Just Given Birth To Three Babies... That...
Would NOT Be Captivating To You?
Here's the point: It's not how you say it... it's WHAT you say!
That's a humorous way to put it, but it makes the point. For Carla's challenge and Ra's response, I also feel that the words were chosen with precision, but what is even more important is the resonance of the intention.
Monica, as long as you see this discussion as helpful for those learning from Carla's work, I'd like it to continue. If you feel there's not much more to say about this without drifting away from Carla's work, I'll respect your judgement about when the thread has run its course.