(01-13-2009, 11:50 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: This is an interesting question. First remember that even Venus did not have the planet's inhabitants as a whole transition to 4D. Indeed, they actually had two positive wanderers inadvertently polarized STS and graduate to 4D Negative while trying to help the unpolarized Venusian population. Imagine how that must have felt!
I remember that example well, of good intentions that got corrupted. I remember Ra said "They were disconcerted."
Those words have served as a reminder to me all these years...I don't want to be...disconcerted!!! Yikes!
Quote:Ra Book III, Session 65
We may note at this point while you ponder the possibility/probability vortices that although you have many, many items which cause distress and thus offer seeking and service opportunities, there is always one container in that store of peace, love, light, and joy. This vortex may be very small, but to turn one’s back upon it is to forget the infinite possibilities of the present moment. Could your planet polarize towards harmony in one fine, strong, moment of inspiration? Yes, my friends. It is not probable; but it is ever possible.
That is one of my fav quotes too! I looooooove it! I agree that it seems pretty obvious it'll be a 3-way split...but I want to always remain open to miracles!
(01-13-2009, 04:35 PM)Quantum Wrote: To continue the point, it seems then, perhaps sadly, that if Venus only graduated 17% positive, and presumably were in advancement of Earth (next great question/assumption, but sadly lacking in any solid validation) then the Earth's harvest potential in as far as numbers (whose counting anyway) may be less than this low number of 17%?
Q, I was thinking that very thing. The Harvest must have very small indeed 30 years ago...but according to Q'uo we are doing much better now. Still, it does seem to be a very small percentage, doesn't it...
I wonder what the negative percentage is.
(01-13-2009, 05:08 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: On the other topic, Ra refused to speculate, but that doesn't keep us from it, of course. Recall that after the second minor cycle a whopping 150 souls graduated. At that time there were around 345,000 people incarnate. Using a similar percentage (.0435%), this would give us around 2.8 million graduates in this Harvest (excluding Wanderers). A valid estimate? Who knows, but it does establish a yardstick and hopefully a lower bound.
(Speculating here) Maybe that's what Ra meant by 'small' 30 years ago...and maybe now it's more like 5 or 10 percent...? Still a lot lower then the Venus Harvest, but considerable improvement over the last 10 years...and Q'uo has indicated that we've had considerable improvement.
(01-13-2009, 08:10 PM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: ...I happen to read Joshiah's works, whom the confederation has acknowledged and sort of "tipped their hat" to. Because of that, and becuase I feel positive when ready Joshiah, I tend to put some stock in that entity.
Now if you take some time to read Joshiah's words, it won't take you long to realize that 90% of what Joshiah talks about is creating your own reality. And surprisingly, Joshiah gives a lot more feedback on manifesting and the creation process than I've seen with Q'uo, Latwii or other Confederation sources.
So when you mention that there is the possibility that you will create your own event for 2011/2012, I believe not only is that true for the transition, but for every waking moment of your life! The reason we don't follow this act more is because we are too busy placing blame on outside results, instead of looking on the inside and wondering why we just manifested a particular experience.
Steve
Powerful stuff, Steve! I agree totally!
We are holographic beings...and Q'uo had acknowledged countless times that the best way to heal the outer reality is to heal the part of ourselves that is being mirrored.
So, it behooves us to hold high that vision of that "one, strong, fine moment of inspiration."
Whether it is sufficient to result in a group Harvest or not, is irrelevant...at the very least, it may result in a larger Harvest than would have occurred, had we NOT held high that vision!
Ask any empowerment guru - they will tell you that if you set your goals high but don't reach them, you will likely go further than if you had set your goals low. Reaching the goal is secondary to reaching as high as you possibly can.
Our task is to do what we can to increase the Harvest...by envisioning a large or complete Harvest, we may do more to increase the Harvest than if we are willing to settle for partial results.