(01-13-2009, 08:27 PM)Quantum Wrote: More food for Setting Suns in 3D, and all those participating:
Thank you again for the continuing dialog. It may seem pedantic to pursue numbers, but perhaps it may establish a furthering insight. I applaud you at finding these facts quickly and quick to respond. Yielding to the fact that only 17% of Venus graduated to a positively oriented harvest, and one whose total population was only roughly 32 million, comparatively against 6 Billion on Earth, and using 60% as an average for positive:
1. Did Venus fall far below the average at 17% vs the standard 60%?
2. Or is this to suggest that of the the mind/body/spirit complexes which "were harvestable" (of an unknown number), that 60% of "that number" represented the positive (in the Venus case at 17% of the total population), whereas 10% represented negative, and 30% mixed was largely positive?
2. 60% + 10% + 30% = 100% haverstable.
3. Given 17% may represent 60%, presumably the total percentage of negative population was far far less of the 10%. Most then were recycled and dispatched back to 3D elsewhere in the Venus case?
4.Of the 6 Billion on Earth, of which "an unknown number" on average "will be harvestable", 60% of this number will be positive, 10% negative, and again 30% mixed which will be largely positive.
This then leads me to more questions as a result of either clear logic or muddled understanding:
1. In the Venus case, the entire population went one way or the other (i.e. positive, negative, or re-cycled and summarily dispatched back to another 3D locale in a Galaxy Far Far Away as a result of not making the grade either positive or negative as a result of the planet presumably going positive(?)
1. Did it in (Venus) in fact go Positive vs Negative?
2. Is it now 4D Positive?
3. Are 4D mind/body/spirit complexes in fact presently inhabiting Venus?
4. This Grand Cycle of 75,000 years representing 3 cycles round the Central Sun, of which one revolution is 25,000 years, is one in which an entire planet, ours in this case, at the end of 75, 000 years is in like kind going one way or the other, in this case positive as given by Ra. Thus as the Marines are wont to say "No One Gets Left Behind". This then may not lend itself to the math in the closing statement comparing only 150 souls previously in the last 25,000 cycle as a result of this final cycle being a closing cycle of the 3 time loop equating to the aforementioned 75,000 year cycle wherein the planet goes, as do all of its inhabitants, as 100% one way or the other, or dispatched to another 3D'er paradise elsewhere. I am making the distinction between an ordinary 25,000 year cycle of once round the center of our universe (galaxy),wherein the mind/body/spirit complexes may harvest (or not), vs the 3 time loop of 75,000 years round the center of our universe (galaxy), wherein the planet itself harvests as a function of an allotted time, as in the clock striking twelve.
Is this relevant? Any thoughts / responses?
A lot of questions and a little, I fear, muddled thinking. The 60% number represents the percentage of all 3D planets that have a strictly positive harvest. This means that in those harvests, only positive enties are harvested. Interestingly, even Earth fell into that camp during the second minor cycle. Similarly, the 10% number represents the number of strictly negative harvests. The remaining 30% of all harvests are mixed, as is the case with our lovely blue orb.
Separately, it is true that all souls will be harvested and then triaged according to their progression (i.e., 4D Positive to remain on Earth, 4D Negative to go to some newly minted 4D Negative planet elsewhere, and the remainder - the vast majority by all accounts - to go to another 3D planet and try again to polarize and advance). You make a good point as to the ambiguity of our use of the terms "harvest", in that just as when wheat is harvested, all plants are reaped, and a separate process separates the wheat from the chaff as it were. I have not seen anything, however that indicates that the third cycle is more prolific in producing souls that are ready to advance, except for the added evolutionary time and extra attention that major cycle harvests get in the form of wanderers and other positive and negative attention from higher realms.
As to the question of what is Venus now, Ra indicates the following.
Quote:Ra Book IV Session 89
Questioner: It appears that the end of Ra’s third density coincided with the beginning of this planet’s second density. Is that correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is roughly correct.
Questioner: Did the planet Venus become a fourth-density planet at that time?
Ra: I am Ra. This is so.
Questioner: Did it later, then, become a fifth-density planet?
Ra: I am Ra. It later became a fourth/fifth-density planet; then, later a fifthdensity planet for a large measure of your time. Both fourth and fifthdensity experiences were possible upon the planetary influence of what you call Venus.
Questioner: What is its density at present?
Ra: I am Ra. Its core vibrational frequency is sixth density. However we, as a social memory complex have elected to leave that influence. Therefore, the beings inhabiting this planetary influence at this space/time are fifth-density entities. The planet may be considered a fifth/sixth-density planet.
As I said earlier, my 2.8M positive souls to be harvested is, I hope, a grossly low number. I simply included it to give people a feel of the size of this harvest if the same relative percentage were maintained as in the second minor cycle. Similarly, I feel that the 17% positive graduation of Ra's time would represent an upper limit to the size of this harvest, that number representing just over 1 billion souls.
Hope that helps,
3D Sunset