01-13-2009, 08:27 PM
(01-13-2009, 05:08 PM)3D Sunset Wrote:(01-13-2009, 04:35 PM)Quantum Wrote: Actually and in fact, on further thought, it would seem that 3D, and 3D Venus included as to your point, as much as 3D Earth, both being by definition one of dichotomy then and now, would necessarily almost always be of a mixed harvest as a result, in as much as a 3D dichotomy of opposites are almost a prerequisite and hallmark of 3D (containing STS and STO) of and within it's sphere. Thus by definition, 3D contains mixed polarity, STS and STO, and thus subsequently by definition may mean almost in every case (possibilities notwithstanding), whether in this Galaxy or (all) others, that a mixed harvest would be the natural result?
To continue the point, it seems then, perhaps sadly, that if Venus only graduated 17% positive, and presumably were in advancement of Earth (next great question/assumption, but sadly lacking in any solid validation) then the Earth's harvest potential in as far as numbers (whose counting anyway) may be less than this low number of 17%?
A couple of good questions, one of which is addressed directly by Ra:
Quote:Ra Book III, Session 65
Questioner: How common in the universe is a mixed harvest from a planet of both positively and negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes?
Ra: I am Ra. Among planetary harvests which yield an harvest of 10% are negative; approximately 60% are positive; and approximately 30% are mixed with nearly all harvest being positive. In the event of mixed harvest it is almost unknown for the majority of the harvest to be negative. When a planet moves strongly towards the negative there is almost no opportunity for harvestable positive polarization.
On the other topic, Ra refused to speculate, but that doesn't keep us from it, of course. Recall that after the second minor cycle a whopping 150 souls graduated. At that time there were around 345,000 people incarnate. Using a similar percentage (.0435%), this would give us around 2.8 million graduates in this Harvest (excluding Wanderers). A valid estimate? Who knows, but it does establish a yardstick and hopefully a lower bound.
Food for thought,
3D sunset
More food for Setting Suns in 3D , and all those participating:
Thank you again for the continuing dialog. It may seem pedantic to pursue numbers, but perhaps it may establish a furthering insight. I applaud you at finding these facts quickly and quick to respond. Yielding to the fact that only 17% of Venus graduated to a positively oriented harvest, and one whose total population was only roughly 32 million, comparatively against 6 Billion on Earth, and using 60% as an average for positive:
1. Did Venus fall far below the average at 17% vs the standard 60%?
2. Or is this to suggest that of the the mind/body/spirit complexes which "were harvestable" (of an unknown number), that 60% of "that number" represented the positive (in the Venus case at 17% of the total population), whereas 10% represented negative, and 30% mixed was largely positive?
2. 60% + 10% + 30% = 100% haverstable.
3. Given 17% may represent 60%, presumably the total percentage of negative population was far far less of the 10%. Most then were recycled and dispatched back to 3D elsewhere in the Venus case?
4.Of the 6 Billion on Earth, of which "an unknown number" on average "will be harvestable", 60% of this number will be positive, 10% negative, and again 30% mixed which will be largely positive.
This then leads me to more questions as a result of either clear logic or muddled understanding:
1. In the Venus case, the entire population went one way or the other (i.e. positive, negative, or re-cycled and summarily dispatched back to another 3D locale in a Galaxy Far Far Away as a result of not making the grade either positive or negative as a result of the planet presumably going positive(?)
1. Did it in (Venus) in fact go Positive vs Negative?
2. Is it now 4D Positive?
3. Are 4D mind/body/spirit complexes in fact presently inhabiting Venus?
4. This Grand Cycle of 75,000 years representing 3 cycles round the Central Sun, of which one revolution is 25,000 years, is one in which an entire planet, ours in this case, at the end of 75, 000 years is in like kind going one way or the other, in this case positive as given by Ra. Thus as the Marines are wont to say "No One Gets Left Behind". This then may not lend itself to the math in the closing statement comparing only 150 souls previously in the last 25,000 cycle as a result of this final cycle being a closing cycle of the 3 time loop equating to the aforementioned 75,000 year cycle wherein the planet goes, as do all of its inhabitants, as 100% one way or the other, or dispatched to another 3D'er paradise elsewhere. I am making the distinction between an ordinary 25,000 year cycle of once round the center of our universe (galaxy),wherein the mind/body/spirit complexes may harvest (or not), vs the 3 time loop of 75,000 years round the center of our universe (galaxy), wherein the planet itself harvests as a function of an allotted time, as in the clock striking twelve.
Is this relevant? Any thoughts / responses?