(11-07-2011, 11:26 AM)apeiron Wrote: Brutal honesty as red, orange, yellow, green (one, two, three or all?). As anger, hostility, or as compassion? It seems what I am seeing is much orange based "brutal honesty" at this point.
I was going to add this point to my comments about 15.12. Honesty will necessarily involve a sort of bluntness, because there will be confrontation with previously held beliefs. However, there is this delusion that no-holds-barred brutal honesty that carries arguments on and on for pages is somehow a service. Yes, speak the truth, but if there is resistance after a few exchanges, stop and move on. It's that simple. If after a few exchanges of opinion you see that there is disagreement, guess what? Five more pages of arguing does nothing, and the many examples of that in here only prove it. It's wasted energy.
The point in which you continue to prove the other wrong in a long discussion, you are no longer asserting wisdom, but you are dominating the other with orange assertion of the self. You have claimed superiority, and you do not allow the other to be themselves. The argument is no longer centered upon wisdom, but it has turned into a battle of "I'm right you're wrong". Recognizing this is easy, because within you it is felt by absolutely needing to correct the other. If there is resistance to letting the other go along misinformed and own their own opinion, you are reflecting non-acceptance and your motivations are simply self-fulfilling.
A more balanced interaction will involve understanding/wisdom.