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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material STS, trying to understand

    Thread: STS, trying to understand


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    10-22-2009, 11:03 PM
    (10-15-2009, 12:48 PM)Lavazza Wrote: This is a topic I have been pondering for some time. I do not fully understand the purpose of the STS path... I do not understand why it exists. There are two things that I have often heard as a way of explaining STS. One is, of course, free will. Entities have the free will to be of STS if they so choose. The other is a mystical belief of mine that all things, that is to say, ALL things in the universe must have a balance of some sort.

    I'm joining this discussion rather late in the game. I haven't read the other posts yet.

    I understand what you're saying here. I feel exactly the same way! I too have wondered why it was necessary for there to be an STS path at all, and why it was necessary for there to be suffering.

    I have sometime joked (or, rather, sort of half-joked) that whenever I hand over the report of my sojourns to the Creator, I'm going to give the Creator an earful! I intend to complain loud and clear that suffering isn't fun, and see if something can't be done about it in future Creations! Surely the Creator can think of some other ways that don't include suffering! I know the mechanics of how things work in our neck of the woods were designed by the Logos, so the Logos will definitely get an earful too!

    While I'm at it, I think I'll throw in a complaint about the mosquitoes and cockroaches too...Was that really necessary? Like the bad guy said in Time Bandits (one of my fav movies), "He created slugs! Slugs!" And I think they can come up with a better design on our throats...having food and air going down the same pipe isn't very efficient. We'd reduce choking if there were 2 separate passageways for food and air!

    Yup...if the Creator wants to absorb my experience, then I've got some ideas that I'd like considered! Tongue

    (10-15-2009, 12:48 PM)Lavazza Wrote: A dead end path...
    As we have learned from the Ra material, STS entities can only travel so far along their chosen path. (can't find session) In mid-sixth density, the negative entity realizes that it cannot progress any further without realizing that it must love others as it loves itself in order to master the lesson of unity. Is it just my perspective that it seems highly awkward for an entity to progress on a spiritual path for millions of years with a misguided premise before finally realizing the "correct" path?

    I don't think it was a 'wrong' path for the STS entity, but just a different route to the same destination.

    (10-15-2009, 12:48 PM)Lavazza Wrote: Further speculation...
    One might also argue that without STS, STO would be meaningless. But I would challenge that idea.

    I think it would be perfectly reasonable if we imagined a completely different paradigm of our reality. Suppose with me for a minute, that there is NO STS path. God is only about love, and we are all creations of love in physical manifest form. However, we do have a thick veil about us. This veil should be more than sufficient catalyst to create any and all opportunities (seemingly STS actions) for STO action.

    I agree! I could envision that quite easily, and it seems much more appealing than the design we're dealing with here. But, from what I understand, Ra's planet was essentially like that. And maybe most of the UniVerse is like that. Maybe we are unusual here. I got the impression from Ra/Q'uo that Earth is sort of like a school for juvenile delinquents.

    (10-15-2009, 12:48 PM)Lavazza Wrote: However the key difference is that everyone who participates in STS actions (murder, theft, hatred, etc) are not working from deep subconscious desires to polarize in STS or "evil" ways, but are simply mis-guided, emotionally traumatized or otherwise suffering entities. After their death they are welcomed back in to the spirit world and undergo much healing, learning what they did wrong and why, and then reincarnating later on with the intent of doing better at those life lessons. This is the paradigm that Michael Newton has observed in his books 'Journy of Souls' and 'Destiny of Souls'.

    I would surmise that this is indeed what happens to the majority of souls that might seem STS to us on the surface. For example, some of the most violent criminals probably aren't necessarily pursuing the STS path, but just never got shown any love as children, maybe grew up in abusive households, and basically are just emotionally messed up. These souls are rehabilitatable, given enough time and love. They will likely repeat 3D until they learn to quit being violent. Look at the most infamous 'evil' person the world has ever known - Hitler - and he didn't even graduate to 4D negative! Not because he wasn't evil enough, but because he was so confused and his motivation was misguided.

    (10-15-2009, 12:48 PM)Lavazza Wrote: In conclusion (for now), I will state that the STS path is one in which I am more than ready to 'leave behind' as Q'uo might suggest I do. If I cannot find resolve on this I will surely do so.

    I feel a bit indignant about there being suffering in the world. Although I know that there's a reason for it, at the same time I think there's a reason for my strong feelings about it too. I was only half-kidding when I said I intend to tell the Logos and the Creator my opinion about it!

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    STS, trying to understand - by Lavazza - 10-15-2009, 12:48 PM
    RE: STS, trying to understand - by Phoenix - 10-15-2009, 01:11 PM
    RE: STS, trying to understand - by fairyfarmgirl - 10-15-2009, 02:00 PM
    RE: STS, trying to understand - by Ali Quadir - 10-15-2009, 04:37 PM
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