(10-20-2009, 04:01 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: Pleases note that I didn't say that there weren't tangible differences between getting rid of STS and getting rid of STO, I just pointed out that in order to transcend polarity and move on, there would need to be a migration, by both, toward the middle and an associated embracing, by both, of some of the other's characteristics.
I beg to differ, at least in the way I interpret Ra.
Ra Wrote:78.2 [...] In sixth density, the density of unity, the positive and negative paths must needs take in each other for all now must be seen as love/light and light/love. This is not difficult for the positive polarity which sends love and light to all other-selves. It is difficult enough for service-to-self polarized entities that at some point the negative polarity is abandoned.
36.12 [...] There are no negative beings which have attained the Oversoul manifestation, which is the honor/duty of the mind/body/spirit complex totality, of late sixth-density as you would term it in your time measurements. These negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes have a difficulty which to our knowledge has never been overcome, for after fifth-density graduation wisdom is available but must be matched with an equal amount of love. This love/light is very, very difficult to achieve in unity when following the negative path and during the earlier part of the sixth-density, society complexes of the negative orientation will choose to release the potential and leap into the sixth-density positive.
Therefore, the Oversoul which makes its understanding available to all who are ready for such aid is towards the positive. However, the free will of the individual is paramount, and any guidance given by the Higher Self may be seen in either the positive or negative polarity depending upon the choice of a mind/body/spirit complex.
36.15 [...] The sixth-density negative entity is extremely wise. It observes the spiritual entropy occurring due to the lack of ability to express the unity of sixth-density. Thus, loving the Creator and realizing at some point that the Creator is not only self but other-self as self, this entity consciously chooses an instantaneous energy reorientation so that it may continue its evolution.
Someone coming from 5d positive into 6d positive will have to balance Love with Wisdom, someone coming from 5d negative into 6d has more work to do.
What you're saying is true, but it's not the whole truth. I would suggest that you're mixing positive/negative with love/wisdom in a way that doesn't make sense from a 6d perspective. Remember that, for example, in 5d "intensifying" is more important than "polarizing".
3D Sunset Wrote:Your choice of the phrase "already 'on the path'" actually hints at my reason for bringing it up. It seems to me that by holding on to the notion that one path is the "right" path to the One Infinite Creator can lead to problems of elitism and ego that are not conducive to STO polarization.
I wouldn't say that the "negative" path is the "wrong" path. That would be a subjective interpretation of objective reality. Personally I wouldn't have used the words "positive" and "negative" in the first place because of this reason.
The context here though is that of the path to unity with the Creator, hence, a path of separation from the Creator is easily seen as the "wrong" path. Subjectively.
(10-20-2009, 07:55 PM)ubergud Wrote: The problem/conundrum/paradox with the discussions of graduation et. all in my opinion is that it implies a Judge/Teacher/etc. And 'who' I wonder might that be ... and for what purpopse ...
Ra Wrote:51.1 Questioner: [...] I was wondering if there is a supervision over the harvest and if so, why this supervision is necessary and how it works since an entity’s harvestability is determined by the violet ray? Is it necessary for entities to supervise the harvest, or is it automatic?
Ra: I am Ra. In time of harvest there are always harvesters. The fruit is formed as it will be, but there is some supervision necessary to ensure that this bounty is placed as it should be without the bruise or the blemish.
There are those of three levels watching over harvest.
The first level is planetary and that which may be called angelic. This type of guardian includes the mind/body/spirit complex totality or Higher Self of an entity and those inner plane entities which have been attracted to this entity through its inner seeking.
The second class of those who ward this process are those of the Confederation who have the honor/duty of standing in the small places at the edge of the steps of light/love so that those entities being harvested will not, no matter how confused or unable to make contact with their Higher Self, stumble and fall away for any reason other than the strength of the light. These Confederation entities catch those who stumble and set them aright so that they may continue into the light.
The third group watching over this process is that group you call the Guardians. This group is from the octave above our own and serves in this manner as light bringers. These Guardians provide the precise emissions of light/love in exquisitely fastidious disseminations of discrimination so that the precise light/love vibration of each entity may be ascertained.
Who watches the Watchmen, eh?