11-03-2011, 09:29 PM
(11-03-2011, 10:35 AM)apeiron Wrote: Good exposition of blue ray. (and lack of when negative)
Now, what about when green/blue is involved. Since compassion is part of it, how would green affect your use of blue when Monica's singing was irritating? (hey, I love Bach, but when is not the proper time, I find it irritating too).
it is impossible to make an analysis for that, without being in that exact particular position. a mother's affinity and proximity to her child is incomparable compared to someone living on the other side of the planet. a mother's senses about her child too. however my reaction would not take the form of sacrificing honesty in order to appease the child.
Quote:Is not a temporal irritation potential for unnecessary long lasting effects in another entity? Regardless of cultural influences, it seems could contain lack of wisdom and compassion, because the expression was an expression of your present emotional status and not of what you usually feel, lets say, towards Bach.
if it is a temporal irritation, you be honest, tell that you have been irritated temporarily, and describe what else you felt. a true, honest description of the situation and your feelings.
just like how i switch bach, if a chorus piece pops up. i dont try to listen it or fake pleasure listening it, to be politically correct or 'compassionate'.
Quote:I think this is what Monica is expecting (in retrospect) form mom's attitude, for example, she expects the mom blue ray expression to contain compassion. However, maybe it was lacking because lack of green, excessive orange/yellow, at the time.
or, maybe, mother did right.
(11-03-2011, 10:47 AM)yossarian Wrote: Nothing there contradicts my rant. Blue ray is about communicating, NOT LOGIC! When you communicate feelings you are still communicating. Poetry, music, crying, shouting, dancing -- all of these are communication and have nothing to do with logic. So no need to say sorry to yossy
My quest is to shout loud against the idea that 4th ray = feelings and 5th ray = logic. This Idea Must Die!
Logic/thinking is not a chakra!
Intuition/feelings are not a chakra!
Chant: Leave Chakras Alone! Leave Chakras Alone! They aren't what you think! They aren't what you think!
:p
just what do you think 'logic' is then ?
the faculties that mind, body, spirit manifests, are all based on the energy that manifests in this octave, and this is divided into 7 main rays. there is no other way.
and blue, is the ray of KNOWLEDGE, WISDOM, COMMUNICATION. it carries all these properties. so, learning, is something that 5d entities or entities working with 5th suboctave ray of any density, actually make.
notice the requirement for graduating to 5d is the desire and readiness to learn how existence works.
Quote:I'm 100% incorrect? There isn't a shred of correctness in there that you can recognize and affirm?
that is 100% incorrect, because there is no way to manifest in this octave aside from expressing the properties that were arranged to manifest in this octave. and of course, the information you apparently forgotten about the properties of 5th ray, and 5d above.
Quote:What we have are different bodies. The mental body or "the mind" expresses all the activated chakras. It doesn't express one chakra. Using the mind therefore has nothing to do with using blue ray. Using logic has nothing to do with blue ray.
The emotional body has feelings. The emotional body expresses all the activated chakras.
no kind of 'mental body' was defined in the material we are studying. there is mind, body, spirit, and bodies are potentiated/activated depending on which density body is manifesting. there is no body like 'mental body'. instead, EVERYthing that is felt, experienced, thought, manifests in mind. that includes love, intuition, and other things. if needed, i can provide the necessary quote for that.
it seems you are overriding Ra material with hindu teachings.
Quote:If you haven't noticed, people on this forum call anyone who is logical "blue" and anyone who is emotional "green". Rather to be more specific, if the emotion is socially considered to be positive (e.g. love, gratitude) they call it "green" and negative (e.g. anger) they call it one of the lower 3 chakras.
that seems to be the case. it seems people are projecting the american/popular western cultural conditionings/biases to the positive/negatives and chakra system.