(10-31-2011, 06:17 PM)Oceania Wrote: yeah, i agree, let people grieve. everyone forgets this little fact. not everyone wants to be famous. not everyone wants to be grieved by strangers when they die. Steve took on the job of being a face for his company. a public being. if it was me, i wouldn't want that. and i wouldn't give a $hit if "everyone" remembered me when i died. i'd care if the people that mattered to me did. and i'm sure that was true of Steve but he didn't mind being the public face. public faces touch more people so of course it's bigger news. more people are gonna grieve. what really pisses me off is how people get all nasty and angry at people grieving Steve and start listing his faults or how others deserve the credit more. as if anyofthat matters. he's dead, people who feel a connection to him grieve. and it's really selfish and mean to b!tch about something petty to people who grieve because of your distorted views of what is sooo frickin important, like fame and posthumous recognition. that doesn't matter to anyone who cared about Steve as a person. like his family. or people that just liked him. and there's these mean things about him floating and i hope his family doesn't see. like there was this facebook pic that was about how african victims are more deserving of grieving. as if grieving Steve takes away from african people. what a load of crap. i'm so tired of this self righteous bullshit everyone's on. and i realize i'm judging people for judging. the judgement never ends.
I understand. I felt that way after John Lennon was killed. I cried buckets over John Lennon. I didn't even know him but I felt absolutely devastated at his death! Especially because it was so senseless, so needless, so violent. Lennon represented so much to me: peace, truth, rebellion against corruption, etc. in addition to the spawning of the greatest era of rock music. John Lennon inspired a generation!
But after he was brutally and senselessly murdered, all the gossip started, about how he wasn't a good dad to his oldest son, blah blah blah. All of which just showed that he wasn't perfect.
A person doesn't have to be perfect to inspire others.
Apparently, Steve Jobs wasn't perfect either. And there is indeed some truth in what unity100 says. I was in IT for 18 years and I remember when the pc hit mainstream homes, and it was indeed the IBM pc, not the Apple. So yes, those are good points too. But none of that matters to those whose lives he touched. Just like whether or not John Lennon was a good dad or not, won't lesson my respect for him regarding what he did accomplish, or my grief at having lost him.
Having said that, I didn't interpret that FB cartoon as mean at all, or in any way directed negatively towards Steve Jobs. Rather, it seemed to just be making the point that each life is valuable, not just the famous ones. I don't think it intended to say not to grieve for Steve; it was just saying, wake up and grieve for these others as well.
(10-31-2011, 06:38 PM)unity100 Wrote: the source you are reading, directly tells the questioner that he is incorrect, bluntly answers 'no' to various questions, and even at times directly says that a question or a formulated proposition is unintelligible.
why arent you accusing or criticizing them for their lack of compassion and bluntness ?
Because Ra was in the position of providing information, of which Ra was an authoritative source.
Even then, Ra acknowledged that they learned as well as taught, and that we were advised to use our own discernment.
Still, Ra was the teacher, the provider of answers, while Don was the student, the questioner.
In an online discussion forum, none among us is in the position that Ra was in. None among us is the undisputed teacher. None of us are 'experts' in the subject we are discussing. We are all students.
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