10-10-2011, 10:38 PM
(10-09-2011, 03:49 PM)unity100 Wrote:But I'm not implying a "separate" reality. What is viable from each "imagined" reality forms a "consensus" or a framework of opportunity. Consciousness/awareness/acceptance/polarization is what provides more choice or ability to choose within that framework. Whether that choice is exploitation via domination/repression or support/acceptance.(10-09-2011, 11:45 AM)zenmaster Wrote: The mind can be "set free". But freedom and opportunity are different things. Opportunity must be provided in order for that freedom to find use. This is an ongoing experiment where we can and do provide such opportunity to ourselves and other-selves. The "blame game" becomes ridiculous once it is known that the patterns which we create in time/space are of our own making ("reality" unfolds from what has been made possible, not from what was thought to be denied) and that, as J. Krishnamurti said, the individual and society are the same thing.
if everyone made their own reality, there would be no need for forgiveness or acceptance or control of others. you could just make up your own reality and live in it. in reality, there are needs for those things. so, it means we dont just make up our own reality.
(10-09-2011, 03:49 PM)unity100 Wrote:Didn't think that was complex? It's just one of many ways to depict the situation.(10-09-2011, 11:45 AM)zenmaster Wrote: In the process of understanding this relationship, we always find something to reject that symbolizes the "old way". The dissatisfaction must be externalized in order to find expression, because we have not yet consciously created the would-be "new way" (something perceived to be better). In effect, because we have not bothered to come up with a new way, we are asking the old way to explain what this new way might be. The baby tends to unconsciously test the parent with its tantrums, and in this way learn something.
in fact its not that complex.
(10-09-2011, 03:49 PM)unity100 Wrote: societal mind has its biases, and the souls gathering together due to acceptance of any part of that societal mind's biases and methods make up aspects of that societal mind. in short, scholastic academicians who are investing in it, are souls which prefer to see the world that way, and want to see the world that way. and they will create a place in societal mind for themselves, and keep their activities going from there. anyone accepting that part of societal mind, sharing it, employing it, will join the group and be affected accordingly by that subset. anyone being in it, but not synchronizing with it, will create distortions and frictions in between himself/herself and that mind. anyone refusing/rejecting that subset, will push it and its effects from the self.Sure, I think this type of dynamic is fairly well known.
(10-09-2011, 03:49 PM)unity100 Wrote: this is no different for anything else that goes in the mind of society. it is not something that is philosophical, more than it is an actual magical, spiritual phenomenon. hence the need for rejection or resistance to things undesired, and the necessity to seek the thoughts, ways and souls that are desired.Lots of ways to depict the situation. However, as Ra said "The function of intuition is to inform intelligence. In your illusion the unbridled predominance of intuition will tend to keep an entity from the greater polarizations due to the vagaries of intuitive perception". The intuition is the interface to the unconscious mind. Using that faculty, we may begin to apprehend what is and may be, but until those vagaries are addressed with some thinking or feeling approach, all we have is impotent hand waving of some possibility.
At an absolute level ("points at infinity"), we can't argue the phrase "all beings have equal worth or value". But until 6D, we indeed have relative value in the sense of learning that which has come time to be accepted - which is unique in space and time to the individual. In a society, we gather because we have the maximum opportunity of learning something held in common. And yes, there are groups of like minded or like valuing individuals who share a core learning framework. There are stages of these memes, which are the subdensities.