09-24-2011, 11:29 PM
(08-22-2011, 03:58 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: Ra explains that there is a difference between mind/body/spirit and mind/body/spirit complex, the latter becoming complex due to the veil. I'm not sure about 1D, but 2D entities have mind/body, and 2D is working towards developing a spirit to become a mind/body/spirit complex. This is talked about discussing the L&L cat, Gandalf. In the incarnation where a 2D entity gains self-awareness and becomes harvestable, it develops spirit.
OK. So in continuing that train of thought, Gandalf is harvested to 3D, now endowed with a spirit. Gandalf does not yet have a Higher Self. Yet some of Gandalf's peers DO have Higher Selves. Right?
abridgetoofar Wrote:This question holds no sway regarding the simultaneous nature of existence. Time is only an illusion, and all things exist in true simultaneity. So there is no time "before" the totality, or "before" the Higher Self. Terming the Higher Self a "future self" is, in my opinion, an oversimplification for us trapped in an illusion of time.
But it is still a process. Something came before and after. For example, Ra talks about how the 22 archetypes were an evolution over previous creations. Each creation has its own "Alpha" and "Omega", in the linear sense of time. But there is also a progression which occurs outside of space/time creations. I don't think we really have the appropriate language to describe this.
abridgetoofar Wrote:This is a good question, as Ra says that not every entity will graduate all densities, and since the totality comes into being in 7D, and Higher Self in 6D, I would assume that an entity would have to have the chance to reach full evolution of the mind/body/spirit in order to have a Higher Self. Tricky...
Right. It doesn't happen until it happens. But once it happens, it is as if the Higher Self had been there all along...?
abridgetoofar Wrote:I would guess that if an entity has the potential to reach 7D, as we know many possibility/probability vortices exist for every bit of existence, that entity would have a Higher Self. An even wilder guess is that, if an entity reaches 3D, they possess that potential. Graduation from 2D to 3D seems to be a big, difficult step. But once one has awareness of self, I'd imagine the possibilities explode.
Sure, but a potential and an actual are different. Everybody has the potential to learn geometry. Not everybody actualizes that potential. So if geometry is a prerequisite to calculus, then those who did not learn geometry cannot take that particular set of lessons.
abridgetoofar Wrote:While at the same time, the Higher Self knows just enough to get an entity to the point of achieving the same development the Higher Self exists with.
The only way the Higher Self "knows" is because it was previously in a state where it was "not known".
abridgetoofar Wrote:Again, I feel like it is simply the potential of an entity to reach 7D which would produce a Higher Self. And, again, my personal guess is that this potential is reach graduation to 3D from 2D.
Again, I am saying that just because all 3D entities have the potential to develop the Higher Self, doesn't mean that they have yet. Also the Higher Self is 6D, not 7D.
abridgetoofar Wrote:It seems that STS entities, if Himmler is a decent example of most STS entities, simply choose not to use guidance. So the Higher Self is sort of pointless to a negative entity.
I don't know that he is a decent example of what I am talking about. Himmler was not an adept.
abridgetoofar Wrote:Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I think you have misunderstood the conversation out of context of the material. They are not referring to all Wanderers, only a particular Wanderer who was tricked and placed into negative time/space. The question right before this:
Yes, it appears I went too far with the plucking there. Thanks for catching that!