01-11-2009, 03:39 AM
I'd like to share my input on some of the areas touched on in this thread.
First, the issue of how could Ra, and for that matter Q'uo, share information without it being considered an infringement of Free Will. RA more or less addresses that issue in 2.1 [session.question] in response to Don's question concerning turning the session into a book. RA states that "There are few who will grasp, without significant distortion, that which we communicate through this connection with this mind/body/spirit complex" which is in itself a truth. If one is not acceptable to awakening and to the intuitive knowing of truth then when you introduce the LOO material to someone you might as well be prepared to have them think you are absolutely crazy for accepting something that cannot be experentially proven. Since the material was given in a manner that only those who are attuned to such things would even accept that the information might be valid and Ra was very careful throughout the contact not to provide any information that could be used to validate the information it is an act of Free Will just to accept the material.
The issue of Ra's insistence on such precise alignment of the objects on the altar could possibly have been only an oblique reference to the transitive nature of some of the questions but maybe not.
Only one who has integrated the use of Magick into their spiritual path would recognize the traits of someone who has grown spiritually through the use of Magick. [No it's not a mispelling that's the proper reference to differentiate between ceremonial/spiritual magick and stage magic/illusion.] Altars when used in Magickal workings are precisely aligned. A good example are the various different sites around the world such as Stonehenge and the precision of their alignments with such phonomena as the Summer Soltice.
RA never did reveal to Don exactly what methods were utilized by them for their spiritual growth while on Venus. From what little was revealed by Ra as to the archetypes and the Tarot that was discussed in Book IV combined with other indicators I am led to believe that it was some form of Magick. RA alludes to the investigation of the sexual transmission of energy by them as part of their growth which is one facet that can be incorporated in a Magickal based pursuit. Additionally, the explanation that Ra gives for the archetypes that were discussed is consistent with the approaches as would be used within some of the Western Magickal traditions.
Another clue to it being Magickal based in addition to the exact alignment is the recommendation that a white robe be used, that the elements of the altar be kept so they not be exposed when they were not being used on the altar, and the procedure involved with walking the Circle of One while performing the ritual is a type of invocation for Magickal purposes.
Additionally, during the discussion of the pyramids the terminology and purposes given for the pyramid is consistent with that which would be used within Western Magickal traditions. In later sessions Ra doesn't hesitate in relating to how an adept [a level associated with Magickal workings] would respond when certain questions were asked. Even when Don hit Ra with a detailed question giving the various aspects of what would be required in Magick work Ra didn't miss a beat or hesitate in his answers.
I also found the reference to the 20 degrees north by northeast interesting. If I recall correctly at some point there was a question dealing with realignment of the magnetic axis and the realignment was to be 20 degrees north by northeast which seems to be consistent with Ra's statement "This is the direction from which the newer or New Age distortions of love/light, which are less distorted, are emanating,...".
I am of the opinion that the "clues" that Ra provided indicates that the path Ra took for spiritual growth is consistent with what would be practiced by Western Magi.
First, the issue of how could Ra, and for that matter Q'uo, share information without it being considered an infringement of Free Will. RA more or less addresses that issue in 2.1 [session.question] in response to Don's question concerning turning the session into a book. RA states that "There are few who will grasp, without significant distortion, that which we communicate through this connection with this mind/body/spirit complex" which is in itself a truth. If one is not acceptable to awakening and to the intuitive knowing of truth then when you introduce the LOO material to someone you might as well be prepared to have them think you are absolutely crazy for accepting something that cannot be experentially proven. Since the material was given in a manner that only those who are attuned to such things would even accept that the information might be valid and Ra was very careful throughout the contact not to provide any information that could be used to validate the information it is an act of Free Will just to accept the material.
The issue of Ra's insistence on such precise alignment of the objects on the altar could possibly have been only an oblique reference to the transitive nature of some of the questions but maybe not.
Only one who has integrated the use of Magick into their spiritual path would recognize the traits of someone who has grown spiritually through the use of Magick. [No it's not a mispelling that's the proper reference to differentiate between ceremonial/spiritual magick and stage magic/illusion.] Altars when used in Magickal workings are precisely aligned. A good example are the various different sites around the world such as Stonehenge and the precision of their alignments with such phonomena as the Summer Soltice.
RA never did reveal to Don exactly what methods were utilized by them for their spiritual growth while on Venus. From what little was revealed by Ra as to the archetypes and the Tarot that was discussed in Book IV combined with other indicators I am led to believe that it was some form of Magick. RA alludes to the investigation of the sexual transmission of energy by them as part of their growth which is one facet that can be incorporated in a Magickal based pursuit. Additionally, the explanation that Ra gives for the archetypes that were discussed is consistent with the approaches as would be used within some of the Western Magickal traditions.
Another clue to it being Magickal based in addition to the exact alignment is the recommendation that a white robe be used, that the elements of the altar be kept so they not be exposed when they were not being used on the altar, and the procedure involved with walking the Circle of One while performing the ritual is a type of invocation for Magickal purposes.
Additionally, during the discussion of the pyramids the terminology and purposes given for the pyramid is consistent with that which would be used within Western Magickal traditions. In later sessions Ra doesn't hesitate in relating to how an adept [a level associated with Magickal workings] would respond when certain questions were asked. Even when Don hit Ra with a detailed question giving the various aspects of what would be required in Magick work Ra didn't miss a beat or hesitate in his answers.
I also found the reference to the 20 degrees north by northeast interesting. If I recall correctly at some point there was a question dealing with realignment of the magnetic axis and the realignment was to be 20 degrees north by northeast which seems to be consistent with Ra's statement "This is the direction from which the newer or New Age distortions of love/light, which are less distorted, are emanating,...".
I am of the opinion that the "clues" that Ra provided indicates that the path Ra took for spiritual growth is consistent with what would be practiced by Western Magi.