The Detuning of Session 17 and Ra's True Intentions Regarding 2011 - Part II

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I had added the [tape flipped] to lawofone.info after listening to that session because that's what it sounded like to me. (There is the sound of tapes being flipped about 45 minutes into each session.) However, after Jim said it was him unloading groceries I went back and listened again and I think he's right.

This is fascinating! See what happened was some months ago I decided to review Book 1 and I noticed it there. But I hadn't noticed it before. This is what caused my mind to fixate there. I had been assuming that it actually was there the last time I read the material, and that my mind was being drawn there for a reason. As it is turning out, this was so but not for the reason I had in my mind.

This is what caused me to take a very close look at that section, and this is when I noticed something else I hadn't noticed before. Namely that Ra had explicitly offered to further discourse on the Law of One, and that Don instead asked about earth changes. Later still, during the ongoing hullabaloo over gradual vs sudden harvest, I went back to see where was the first time harvest actually appeared in the material, and there it was.

Which is why I have been saying that it is "all right there in Book One" because it sets up a vibrational pattern that persists throughout the remainder of the sessions. I am having trouble finding the words to describe it... I have tried forwarding this idea in different ways among various threads but it keeps getting met with resistance. So obviously, I haven't quite landed on it yet.

I'm not sure that it caused confusion. Ra basically just paused and waited for the noise to stop. (They did the same thing when the telephone rang a little bit later.) Carla wasn't in trance during the first session, and Ra hadn't, of course, given them the circle of one ritual yet, so there was no circle walked. Instead, Carla had challenged Ra in the same way that she challenges every source when she channels consciously.

I am saying it did cause confusion, as evidenced by us in this very forum being confused. Do you see what I am saying here?

I'm pretty sure Jim wasn't there when the session started. I don't know if he joined in after he unpacked the groceries. I believe that the session was actually supposed to be a teaching session for Carla's student Leonard and that the only people who were there were Carla, Don, and Leonard.

This is very interesting. Is there anything else you can share about Leonard?

As far as L/L knew going into the session, it was going to be another conscious channeling session with Hatonn, Latwii, or someone like that. They didn't know Ra would speak instead.

Exactly! See this is why I was drawn back in June to look at the transcripts immediately before the Ra contact. I was interested to see what was "going on" and if there was anything there that hinted that Ra was going to come through.

I documented my thoughts in 1981.01.05 - 1981.01.15 Last Hatonn Contact Before Ra. If you go back to that thread and reread them, now understanding why I had looked at those specific sessions, maybe it will make more sense. It also bears directly on this thread. Remember this exchange?

Thus, Hatonn has moved [to the] eighth or final or covering layer or dimension of this particular octave, stretched itself until it covers the entire planet and is tuning in and attempting to ameliorate by love that particular vibration which is doing the most harm to your peoples. This is a vibration of thought, not of deed.

So Latwii is basically insinuating that Hatonn was on the verge of making a mistake and infringing on the will of the people, and then was suddenly moved to 8D?!

I find that kind of strange. Hasn't an 8D entity already balanced love/wisdom and therefore never contemplate infringement on free will.

Ra said that each density has eight sub-densities. Maybe Latwii meant that Hatonn had moved to the eighth sub-density of third density. I agree with you that a truly eighth-density entity, which will have already rejoined the Creator, would be unlikely to make such an effort.

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Incidentally, this is what also caused me to read the session immediately following the last contact with Ra. As the contact ended so abruptly, I was interested to see what occurred in the next session. I document my thoughts on this in 1984.04.15 First Hatonn Contact After Ra.

Also notable is that I was apparently under the incorrect assumption that Don's suicide had occurred in the interim, and was projecting some anger into the situation. However, again there I am talking about similar ideas which have now resurfaced in this thread.

I have also observed this to be the thread where I perceived that unity100 was on the attack, after our disagreement in More Positive But Less Harvestable after the "Big Blowout". I recall this exchange where we found common ground:

I try to look at it from Ra's perspective. Ra decides to make an appearance, and almost immediately encounters the very distortion that they themselves unintentionally created over three thousand years prior.

however, the 'here it comes' was not a distortion that Ra created. it was yahweh's doing, in order to communicate coming of 4d. however it devolved into doomsday concept, and its modern reflection in spiritual literature is 'earth changes' in its most mild form.

Again, you can see how this is applicable to this thread.

This brings us right back to another "confusion quote" which Icaro brought up in his first post here. Again, there was another layer of confusion brought it as to information which was missing and added after the relistening project. As you may recall:

No date of 2,600 was ever mentioned before this session.

This is incorrect. There was a question/answer in session 16 that wasn't published until the relistening project. This is what Ra was correcting in session 17. See http://www.lawofone.info/show-diff.php?s...&sc=1&ss=1

Questioner: [What contacts has the Orion group made with our planet?]

Ra: I am Ra. Approximately four five thousand [45,000] years ago an attempt was made. It was not successful. Approximately two six oh oh, 2,600, years ago the group sent an entity of social memory complex to this planetary sphere. This effort met with some success but was in the space/time continuum lessened in impact. Since approximately two three oh oh, 2,300 years ago in your measure this group has constantly been working upon the harvest just as the Confederation.

Questioner: Can you name the entity that they sent 2,600 years ago?

Ra: I am Ra. This entity named by your peoples, Yahweh.

Now looking again at the "correction quote":

Ra: Before we communicate by answer we shall correct an error which we have discovered in the transmission of our information to you. We have difficulty dealing with your time/space. There may again be errors of this type. Feel free to question us that we may recalculate in your time/space measurements.

The error we have discovered concerns one of the arrivals of both the Orion group into your planetary sphere of influence and the corresponding arrival of emissaries of the Confederation. We gave dates of 2,600 years for the Orion entry, 2,300 for Confederation entry. This is incorrect. The recalculation indicates numbers 3,600 for Orion entry, 3,300 for Confederation entry.

we see that the corrected dates are: 3600 years ago (~1600 BC) for Orion entry, and 3300 years ago (~1300 BC) for Confederation entry. Which is precisely the time I offered in More Positive but Less Harvestable for the Ra contact with Akhenaten, which is also consistent with the historical record.

unity100 picked up that I had made an error with respect to the "true" and "false" yahweh, but himself gets the dates wrong in his correction:

that wouldnt be relevant. 'yahweh lurking around' would be inappropriate for the time of Ra contact, since you are apparently referring to the orion entity which usurped yahweh's identity after 1600 BC. Ra contact, in the latest, is 2300 BC or so. before 1600 BC date, yahweh was the confederation entity, positive yahweh. there would be no concept of yahweh 'lurking' around that time.

Argument then ensues between unity100 and I over the validity of specific dates offered in the material, which eventually evolves into a multiple thread discussion over 2011 as the harvest date.

This, in fact, is the source of the idea that there could have been something interfering with the material that might be further connected to confusion in the query, an interfering entity, or both.

This idea was then batted around among the various threads, and for the most time being batted down. There appears to me to be great concern that the material will somehow become "invalidated" by the propositions offered in these threads. Others do not see it as such.

Might I also note that I have found unity100's assessments of the material to not only be very precise, but also well-studied. I have also found his replies, though sometimes irritating, to be the most effective catalyst which has propelled me to seek deeper into the information for which I am grateful.

And I have yet to re-read Book 4.

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[BEGIN DIRECT REPLY TO unity100]

With all due respect, I have now point blank pointed out how- in the very two quotes in question- you made serious errors specifically with respect to numbers in the material.

First, you incorrectly corrected me on the date for the Ra contact to be 1333 BC, at the time of Ahkenaten, precisely as I stated in my posts, which caused me to deeply doubt myself and question the ideas I had been formulating at the time. The correct date is 3300 years ago, meaning 1300 BC.

Secondly, you directly misstated that Ra said harvest was in 2011, when Ra did not. Don said harvest was in 2011. Whether or not harvest was indeed in 2011, relative to that nexus, is beside the point.

The point is for you to acknowledge this, and also notice your above error, and also notice how they are connected. The opportunity is for you to question why.

My best regards.

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Questioner: Can you tell me why you say that the Earth will be fourth density positive instead of fourth density negative since there seems to be much negativity here now?

Ra: I am Ra. The Earth seems to be negative. That is due to the quiet, shall we say, horror which is the common distortion which those good or positively oriented entities have towards the occurrences which are of your time/space present. However, those oriented and harvestable in the ways of service to others greatly outnumber those whose orientation towards service to self has become that of harvestable quality.

RELISTENED PROJECT below:

Questioner: Can you tell me why Earth will be fourth density positive instead of fourth density negative after the cycle is complete since it seems that there is a greater negative population?

Ra: I am Ra. The Earth seems to be negative. That is due to the quiet, shall we say, horror which is the common distortion which those good or positively oriented entities have towards the occurrences which are of your space/time present. However, those oriented and harvestable in the ways of service to others greatly outnumber those whose orientation towards service to self has become that of harvestable quality.

that is an enlightening revelation.


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