09-08-2011, 03:52 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-08-2011, 03:59 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
(09-08-2011, 01:13 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: I read those paragraphs (several times) and the next few, too. I guess I'm having a hard time seeing how they support your claim that everything Ra gave about the archetypes was already available before 1981. I was thinking that if I read the rest of the book I might find what you're referring to, but after reading forward a few more pages I abandoned that effort.
OK, no worries. I will admit it has been a while since I looked at the archetype material in detail. My use of the phrase "not one stitch" was perhaps a little rambunctious. The main idea I was attempting to convey is that, upon my first read through of the Ra material in 1994/1995, the archetype section did not jump out at me as being too different from anything else I had previously read on tarot. At any rate, it is just a difference of opinion, and not really a critical point.
What -IS- of great significance in my mind, is that you "just happened" to ask for more information, upon which my investigation "just happened" to turn up references to the same individuals and concepts I have been talking about in other threads.
As a seeker, when I observe these "coincidences" I take that as a signal that I am on the "right track". So for me to be "completely wrong" here would signify a fundamental malfunction, or outright hijacking, of my internal guidance system. Which is a little much for me to accept, I will admit.
βαθμιαίος Wrote:However, any inroads the negative entity might have made into Jim or (especially) Don's consciousness or subconsciousness before the session could, of course, affect the session.
This is pretty much the extent of what I have been saying, although now I more clearly see the source of the confusion.
βαθμιαίος Wrote:I think we're talking about two different things. You're talking about the symbols (bible, candle, incense) that the group used to reassure Carla. I agree with you that if the Upanishads were symbolically meaningful to Carla then they would have worked just as well to reassure her. But I'm talking about what protected her, and I don't understand the symbols to be what protected Carla -- as I understand it, the protection was provided by Don and Jim walking the circle of one.
Yes, I think we have been talking about two different things. If "walking the circle of one" = protection = preventing a negative entity from taking over Carla's body, then I see no conflict in our points of view.
βαθμιαίος Wrote:As to whether Carla was attacked when she was thirteen because she was going to channel Ra -- who knows? I'm just invoking Occam's Razor and suggesting that she would probably have been attacked no matter what her future held, given that, as a wanderer, she was a high-priority target.
You are right, who knows? However you have invoked Occam's Razor without taking into account all of the facts. One being that Icaro proposed a theory here in this forum, which doesn't offend my sensibilities as much as it appears to bother others. Next, for "some reason", I was inspired to look for any documentation of solar activity during the sessions Icaro pointed out. In fact, I DID find evidence. And THEN when I followed up on the evidence, I found that the Book V material originating from that time period SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSES psychic attack, and the kidney issue from Carla's past.
So, in this case, invoking Occam's Razor relegates everything else I described above to "mere coincidence". Are you saying that all of these "coincidences" are meaningless, according to your assessment?