The Detuning of Session 17 and Ra's True Intentions Regarding 2011 - Part II

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You don't need to read the entire book, just the section that I linked for you consisting of four paragraphs. It is kind of amusing that you would specifically ask for a reference, and then declare that you have no time to read it.

I read those paragraphs (several times) and the next few, too. I guess I'm having a hard time seeing how they support your claim that everything Ra gave about the archetypes was already available before 1981. I was thinking that if I read the rest of the book I might find what you're referring to, but after reading forward a few more pages I abandoned that effort.

So the entire basis for believing that the ritual was 100% effective, is simply this sentence? I mean 100% effective against negative interference, not 100% effective of an overt takeover of Carla's body, as I previously replied. In other words, do you believe that a negative entity "outside" the circle could have no effect, whatsoever, on what is going on "inside" the circle?

Yes, I do, if by "have no effect" you mean that the negative entity was unable to send thought forms into the circle during the working. However, any inroads the negative entity might have made into Jim or (especially) Don's consciousness or subconsciousness before the session could, of course, affect the session.

What I am attempting to say is that, if the Upanishads were used instead of the Bible, and if one of Rumi's poems was used instead of the prayer of St. Francis, they would have worked just as well, if such symbols were acceptable to Carla's subconscious.

I think we're talking about two different things. You're talking about the symbols (bible, candle, incense) that the group used to reassure Carla. I agree with you that if the Upanishads were symbolically meaningful to Carla then they would have worked just as well to reassure her. But I'm talking about what protected her, and I don't understand the symbols to be what protected Carla -- as I understand it, the protection was provided by Don and Jim walking the circle of one.

As to whether Carla was attacked when she was thirteen because she was going to channel Ra -- who knows? I'm just invoking Occam's Razor and suggesting that she would probably have been attacked no matter what her future held, given that, as a wanderer, she was a high-priority target.