The Detuning of Session 17 and Ra's True Intentions Regarding 2011 - Part II

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That's basically the opposite of my sense of the progression of the sessions. Don started out by asking about transient material, in part because he thought it would help attract an audience, but by the end he was focusing on material much more central to Ra's interests (philosophy, the archetypical mind, etc.)

Here's a helpful outline of the subjects covered in each session: http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2448

Thanks for the outline. I don't know what to say- maybe I should take another look at that section and see if I have a new assessment as to the practical value of the information contained there.

I'm not aware of any other source that groups the major arcana of the tarot into seven archetypes each of mind, body, and spirit, plus the choice. Are you? If so, could you provide a reference?

There is a section in The Tarot: history, symbolism, and divination which describes the major arcana as "three groups of seven" in the Tarot of Marseilles, which is generally thought to have originated in the 15th century, although that particular term is a late 19th century creation. This system was further elaborated in the late 18th century by Comte de Mellet, who did in fact attribute it to the Egyptians although he had no historical basis for saying so.

Interestingly, this ties back into The Archetypes - Potentiator of the Spirit where I asked you for a reference on Zain. The "Tarot of Marseilles" was a term coined by Papus aka Gerard Encausse, who I believe was partially responsible for a major distortion of occult teaching at the end of the 19th century, in particular that of Joseph Alexandre Saint-Yves d'Alveydre and Sir Edward Bulwer Lytton.

This is not to say the 3X7 +1 framework is a distortion... only that this individual Papus associated his name with the concept, along with several other concepts that did not originate with him. So it is very intriguing that you should ask me this question, and the answer would lead me back to this individual who had a distorting influence on occult traditions.

As previously discussed in Guardians from the Octave Above, some of these ideas, and particularly that of underground civilizations was passed down through this lineage. Not the least of which is a fairly clear comparison of 4D neg/pos worlds as offered in A Wrinkle In Time. Now we have established the 7x3 +1 Tarot was also present in this lineage.

All of these ideas were present and established in the group mind before the Ra contact in 1981. This does not preclude them actually having originated with Ra, in the remote past. But they are certainly not unique to the Ra material at present.