Share your vision for the harvest

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Ra never said "whenever we say 'approximately' regarding a date, it means within 5 years." Yes, they're using human time, but many people have different ideas of what approximately might mean. It's a relative term. If the limits were defined, the response would have been "Yes, the moment of harvest will happen sometime between 2010 and 2015." THAT is definition of the limits. Approximate limits are relative.

i dont know what you are even arguing :

- all dates in the material regarding our time has been given with our time scale. corrected if erred.
- ra knows what a year is
- ra knows what does something taking a year, or longer than a year means.
- if the probabilities of it happening in another year than 2011 was sufficiently high, ra would tell it. like they did with transition, and anything else.
- harvest may happen this year. harvest happening in the next years will not change the fact that it will happen within a year.

Right, exactly, "most likely" probability does not mean "definitely." It explicitly leaves room for other probabilities. Not probabilities regarding the mechanic of harvest, but the date of harvest, which is what I'm talking about.

what im saying is if there were other probabilities that were sufficiently noticeable, they would be named.

Unless this contact only happens once one passes into time/space.

contacting intelligent infinity in conscious form, is free ticket out of a 3d planet. i am not sure if you are missing this or not. it surpasses harvest, harvest cycles, and apparently because harvesters come during harvests, harvesters too. and 'leaving through intelligent infinity' phrase used for these situations. im telling these because you seemed to imply that conscious contact during incarnation was not possible. it is. and it is not something that can go unnoticed.

as for contacting intelligent infinity in time/space, it isnt a possibility that would go unnoticed by the conscious self either. the contact substantially alters the consciousness of an entity when done in conscious form to the extent it is explained in the material and how do entities react. it doesnt matter whether you contact that energy during time/space presence in sleep or else - the energy that is transferred through contact, would still be there.

I'm still not quite grasping how this would inhibit the scenario I proposed. Entities will be harvested upon death, and will be harvestable in incarnation. In this harvest, one doesn't have to be "harvestable" to get harvested, they'll simply be placed in another 3D continuum. How does the difference between being harvested and being harvestable prevent one from being harvested only once they die naturally?

Right, of course if one is harvested they would know, but in the scenario at the moment harvest happens, the masses of unincarnated souls are harvested, and then the souls in incarnation are harvested upon natural death. Harvest strikes in a moment, and it would not be possible to not be harvested after the generation alive during harvest dies.

something that is told to take place within a year, cannot wait for entities' decades or 70 years long incarnation periods to end. harvesters come at the end of cycle in harvest, and apparently, go after harvest is completed. it is not an 'everlasting opportunity' that waits for whims and amusement of entities incarnated. otherwise a harvest period in a NORMAL 3d planet, would need to last a whopass 900 years at the minimum.

I'm definitely not disagreeing that death is necessary for harvest. I'm just wondering why the death would have to be forced instead of natural.

because, harvest is something that happens in cycle ends, upon a gateway opening. if it could accommodate an entity's lifespan, its period would need to be at the minimum 900 years due to normal 3d conditions.

therefore, it cannot be something that allows an incarnation to end for any 3d entity.

in addition, we were told that harvest would happen in a certain YEAR. we were not told that it would be any kind of period that would surpass a year.

I think it would simply halt their progress rather than destabilize their balance. The instreaming 3D vibrations are nearly non-existent as it is, so it wouldn't be much different after they disappear completely.

destabilization is not a result of missing 3d vibrations. its due to exposure to 4d vibrations before an entity's violet balance can accommodate for it. and, if 3d entities stay here, they WILL get exposed to 4d here and there, and it will be impossible to know how and when who will get exposed to it to what extent.

I don't think that population decline as an act of synchronicity would be out of the question, if population decline is really necessary.

what does 'synchronicity' mean ? magic ? will people stop reproducing just like that ?

I'm not saying that the 4D is just awareness, I'm talking about becoming more aware of the 4D material. Obviously there will be children born with different genetics and different material, and there's no clear explanation of how this evolution happens in the material. They will probably not react well to foods of lower vibration...they'll simply stop eating them.

How do you interpret the gradual evolution of 4D bodies if not gradual?

those bodies may be birthing and evolving in the newly shaping 4d physical plane that 3-4d body entities also manifest in. another dimension.

I hope you're not implying that that's my position. I don't think you are, but just for the record, it's not. I take Ra's statements literally re: energy centers, pyramids, Maldek, spider bites, harvest, etc., and I try to use and apply what they gave. It's just that in the case of harvest I haven't been able to see my way clear to an understanding of what Ra says in a way that makes complete sense. I don't think it's enough to say, "the preponderance of the evidence is on this side or that." I think there must be a way to interpret Ra's statements that incorporates all of them, gradualist and sudden, into a coherent, consistent narrative. I'm just not sure what it is.

ominous lack of information regarding what happens at the end of 3rd cycle should make you think. it was not explained in any detail.