Share your vision for the harvest

[Bring4th_Austin]

- then it means you have a problem with the death approach in 2011 with almost absolute certainty. its just another problem in the list of problems which cause people to attempt extreme interpretations of things that could not be interpreted.

They're not extreme interpretations. They're rather tame interpretations of very ambiguous words. And this is why this debate is getting outrageous. You think you have the right to throw psychological labels on people who argue against you because we see something that is very obvious to us that has nothing to do with bias or any sort of psychological hangup. I guarantee you I would have no problem dying this second, but I don't see instant harvest as the only interpretation of Ra's words. I find your interpretations to be in the extreme, but I'm not going to say "Well obviously unity, you have something wrong with 3D existence. You can't stand it, so you want harvest to be instant and death to come soon because you no longer like this existence."

Are you a trained psychologist? Have you done an extensive psychological study on a large various group of people who see different interpretations of Ra's words? Have you let your peers review this study to make sure you have no bias of your own affecting the results?

No?

I'm not so sure your diagnosis of people who disagree with you would be objectively accepted then. Objectively, it's even fishier that you're applying it to everyone who happens to disagree with you. How convenient that only those who disagree with you do so out of bias...

- i am not hell bent on proving anything. what i am hell bent on is arguing against blatant denial of things bluntly, directly, clearly told in the material. 'harvest will happen in 2011' does NOT mean 'it will begin'. it means, harvest 'will happen' in 2011. this may be 2012, this may have been 2010, its a different matter and the matter of the 'approximate nexus' you speak of. the approximate nexus Ra has mentioned, fits in a YEAR. not 900 years.

Of all the quotes regarding harvest, you are taking what you want to fit your own view. Even within this own quote, you are ignoring very obvious possibilities of other meanings and having them fit your own view of harvest. It's pointless to discuss with you, because you have set in your mind what you think harvest is and you'll only use quotes, even just PARTS of those quotes, to support that view, and ignore any other quotes which very obviously point towards a different view.

It's very possible that one quote that you constantly fall back on, given Ra's following clarification, was regarding the harvest of entities not in incarnation, which would be a rather grand instant event. The fact Ra even mentions entities not in incarnation instead of "all entities" makes it ambiguous and open for interpretation.

I know you disagree. I know you think Ra was simply clarifying. Maybe they were? Maybe they weren't. I bet you'll choose the option which suits your opinion, and then say anyone who chooses the other, or even acknowledges the other, only does so because they have a psychological bias that doesn't allow them to accept the one you chose.