(08-29-2011, 11:49 PM)unity100 Wrote: there is no obligation for harvest happening after death. contact with intelligent infinity in incarnation, it seems, a more surefire harvest in regard to definite harvestability. notice, how the concept 'judging of harvestability of entity' gets into play in a harvest that happens after incarnation with entity being placed in violet ray body. there is a judgment happening there, probably by the harvesters. however, for the case of contacting intelligent infinity during incarnation, no such mentions were made. it seems, contacting intelligent infinity during incarnation is a definite proof of harvestable violet balance.
Contact within the incarnation would be an immediate effective measurement, yes I agree.
Quote:this bodes rather important conclusions for gradualist proposals, since it is said that 'all entities are harvested regardless of progress at the end of last cycle', and the two entities named from third reich were still waiting for harvest for their harvestability to be gauged during harvest. (because they apparently didnt attain intelligent infinity contact during incarnation - if they did, they would immediately leave the planet as other negatives do - which was told as a thumb rule for self-harvests of negative nature By the way).
That's a good catch, but I'm not sure we can conclude that ultimately everyone must die at the point of harvest. We have no idea as to the period of time that the gateway remains opens. An educated guess would be that it would open for 900 years, relative to the portion of intelligent energy which created the life-span duration for this locality. Interestingly enough it was stated that at max, the full 4d transition would take 700 years, and that they couldn't accurately conclude on that measurement. I will say though that those two waiting for harvest concedes my argument that the harvest possibly started in the 30's.
(08-30-2011, 11:00 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Yes. "kind of opening" is an entirely abstract idea. As is "the indigo body" an abstract idea in 51.10. As is the idea of a "color". As is the idea of inner light, of Polaris, in 54.26. Even the "entering" of time/space is allegory for an abstract idea applied to space/time, here/now.I understand your perspective. Everything has to be put into words though, or explained symbolically. The nature of reality is symbolic anyway.
Frankly, the more I study the LOO, the more it becomes abstract with very little literal information.