Quite interesting - Mayan day/nights and earth periods

[zenmaster]

there are important stuff you are missing while making the above assumptions :

4d and 4d vibrations do not interest 3d entities. those who are going to stay into 4d vibrations, are currently in 3-4d transitionary bodies. they are already harvested, and they dont have business with the harvest. they are told to be already here for 4d lessons.

What? I didn't miss that, I explicitly included that.

veil is a mechanic in 3d in time/space, we were told. then this means that, when someone is vibrating around the 3d spectrum on a veiled 3d planet, the veil would be active for that entity in time/space, in between conscious and subconscious.

time/space IS the subconscious. There IS no veil after death - veil is due to a particular space/time attachment to time/space (where the 'mind' is). You see all choices, all experience, all progress up to that point. That's the whole point of the evaluation and assessment of further incarnational needs.

this would affect any entity to any degree - even if a 4d entity may be inhabiting a 3-4d transitionary body, with the definition we have s/he would still get affected by the veil, even if it would probably be to a different degree than the 3d entity vibrating in 3d spectrum. the opposite is also true - a 3d entity going up to vibrating in 4d frequencies may have reduced effect from veil, but how this would act in conjunction with its 3d body is a different matter. we were told 3d electrical fields couldnt stand full 4d vibrations.

full 4d vibrations is gradual we are told.

one major mishap you are making is the assumption you make about less importance of extended lifespan due to harvest being a time/space phenomenon. this is a dangerously short sighted judgment - because it forgets the very reason for a physical incarnation and an 3d existing in the first place :

entities incarnate into 3d or other physical densities to manifest and evolve through experiences. otherwise, there would not be a need to incarnate at all, and there would only be a time/space existence. yet, because it is faster to learn/teach in physical manifestations, such a concept like incarnation exists - the entities live in physical existence, and their experiences get distilled into their mind/spirit complex. overall resultant progress identifies the advancement of the entity.

Yes, I did not forget all of that.

therefore, even if you are going to do the harvest in time/space, incarnation time on the planet does matter. because, the progress one accumulates is the determining factor in the harvest.

Never said it didn't matter. I thought I was explicitly pointing that out.

this is especially important in the light of the fact that Ra has mentioned that the entities on this planet go through spiritual childhood until around age 60-70. this means, even as of now, our lifespans are way too short for incarnational experience on this planet. entity matures and goes over trivial things and reaches proper grasp of the 3d existence it is in, and then s/he dies, because lifespan doesnt suffice.

The lifespans are not the ideal duration. So what? Plenty of catalyst to process.

so, if there was such a time period that would stretch from 1981 towards 70 years into the future, it would be very helpful to enable entities with longer lifespans. so that, they could go through the spiritual childhood Ra talks about until ages 60-70, and then they would have a real chance in making a choice that would reflect in the time/space harvest you talk about.

Lifespan is really an effect of the collective decisions of the 'racial mind'. It's just the way they see themselves, the creation, and each other. Regardless, we know that progress is made even if it is not ideal or as harmonious as possible.

Therefore it could easily be the case that there is a certain point 'harvest' where after death, we walk those steps and determine further incarnational needs. Loads of catalyst and 3D incarnations before 'harvest', and little catalyst and fewer and fewer 3D incarnations as yellow-ray support goes into potentiation. This scenario, while perhaps boring, is completely congruent with the material, and the most parsimonious IMHO. After death we have a grand overview what lessons need to be learned and simply go to the appropriate space/time with the appropriate body.

that scenario, if was completely congruent with the material, would not necessitate endless numbers of social memory complexes descending upon this planet at this particular nexus in time, a mere 20-30 years' vicinity of a given date of 2011, and attempt to communicate information and provide energy in hopes of increasing harvest.

Why not?

the message is universal - from nameless group a to sts-apparent imposter group z, ALL of the spiritual channeled material, are concentrated on increasing imminent harvest.

Yes, albeit typically in an incestuous, nebulous, transitory manner which has little to do with actual learning itself - the whole purpose of polarization.

in your comfortable scenario there would not be a need to push so hardly to the point of almost violating free will due to the abundance of direct channeled material being overloaded all over the place.

Why not? I don't see the connection. The channeled entities speak in various ways about 'finding the heart of self'. There is nothing I have suggested that diminishes or negates such an opportunity. I am at a loss as to why you need to over complicate things.