Why do probabilities/possibilities bother you so much? Every day, our P/P changes. The P/P of us exploring more of space, of us discovering and delineating free energy, stopping all wars, etc. You act as if we need these dynamics to continue or else everything will go sour or something... Why?
What I meant by you saying 'everything is allegory' is just from my observation that you feel much of the "exopolitical" stuff is garbage and instead all of this stuff happens between incarnations. That is fine and well, but it completely ignores the fact that this planet is said very clearly by Ra to be slated to become a 4D positive planet beyond the harvest. I believe the harvest will be both a gradual shift as well as a singular moment; I believe each side will have its role in this.
That being said, I think I understand why you would think this way as well. It's 'safe'; Ive been wanting a more safe place to have my thoughts as well lately. By believing in the harvest and a shift in consciousness, I am putting myself out on a ledge. I may look like a fool. However, I do not believe that all is derivative of purely the self. There are times where other-selves can enter the equation as well, and I believe this is where change will happen. For it is the calling of many that will change the world, not the opining of a single soul, imo.
What is fantasy about the matter? What world do you live in? Go to any market-based website and read all the projections from the last month. The world economy is on the brink of disaster. The only thing keeping us afloat is the fact that the majority of people haven't realized the only way out is to print a whole bunch of money that didn't exist yesterday, thereby undermining the entire system. The US is a mess and Europe is an even bigger one. These 'doomsday' and 'utopia' scenarios are not far-fetched; I can confirm this just from short conversations with my still-heavily-sleeping friends who have yet to awaken. Even they are aware of a change in the paradigm.
So lets take the world at face value and add in all this 2012 hullabaloo. As mentioned before, if the world were any shade of 'normal' right now, I would be having plenty of thought similar to zenmaster. The problem is that the tensions are all invariably rising, and there is going to be a change at some watershed moment. Anybody who wants to argue that hasn't been paying attention to history. There is ALWAYS change. We are on the precipice of it now in our own lives.
Zen, you mention something here that makes me think that you are not really thinking this all through. You say that 'the future is enabled by the present' and I cannot agree more with you. My question to you is how you cannot see us stepping up in the present with the world in it's current state; do you think as a whole we are happy?
What I meant by you saying 'everything is allegory' is just from my observation that you feel much of the "exopolitical" stuff is garbage and instead all of this stuff happens between incarnations. That is fine and well, but it completely ignores the fact that this planet is said very clearly by Ra to be slated to become a 4D positive planet beyond the harvest. I believe the harvest will be both a gradual shift as well as a singular moment; I believe each side will have its role in this.
That being said, I think I understand why you would think this way as well. It's 'safe'; Ive been wanting a more safe place to have my thoughts as well lately. By believing in the harvest and a shift in consciousness, I am putting myself out on a ledge. I may look like a fool. However, I do not believe that all is derivative of purely the self. There are times where other-selves can enter the equation as well, and I believe this is where change will happen. For it is the calling of many that will change the world, not the opining of a single soul, imo.
Quote: Yes, maybe it will be 'change we can believe in'. We can turn this thread into a focus group and elicit speculations and fantasy on the matter. The future is enabled from the present, unless we have a huge free-will infringement it will be, to a large extent, based on who we choose to be now - in this moment - not then.
What is fantasy about the matter? What world do you live in? Go to any market-based website and read all the projections from the last month. The world economy is on the brink of disaster. The only thing keeping us afloat is the fact that the majority of people haven't realized the only way out is to print a whole bunch of money that didn't exist yesterday, thereby undermining the entire system. The US is a mess and Europe is an even bigger one. These 'doomsday' and 'utopia' scenarios are not far-fetched; I can confirm this just from short conversations with my still-heavily-sleeping friends who have yet to awaken. Even they are aware of a change in the paradigm.
So lets take the world at face value and add in all this 2012 hullabaloo. As mentioned before, if the world were any shade of 'normal' right now, I would be having plenty of thought similar to zenmaster. The problem is that the tensions are all invariably rising, and there is going to be a change at some watershed moment. Anybody who wants to argue that hasn't been paying attention to history. There is ALWAYS change. We are on the precipice of it now in our own lives.
Zen, you mention something here that makes me think that you are not really thinking this all through. You say that 'the future is enabled by the present' and I cannot agree more with you. My question to you is how you cannot see us stepping up in the present with the world in it's current state; do you think as a whole we are happy?